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For His Glory: My views on Christianity and the Holy trinity

Article By: Dannika
Religion and Spirituality


This is what I think of God, and everything like that. It's actually from my site, but nobody's reading it and I seriously think people could benefit from this, and relate to it. Please comment. :)

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Submitted: Aug 20, 2008    Reads: 248    Comments: 47    Likes: 5   


Taking Our Eternity

By Dannika Black

Heyy, there. My name is Dannika (Dan-ick-a) Black - and yes, this is just a pen name - but you can call me Dani.

You must be wondering:

**Who is this crazy person with a penname?

**What is this website about anyways?

**What does 'taking our eternity' mean anyways?

 

Well, number one

 I am in grade 11. I recently became a "jesus-follower" (preferable to the word 'Christian', because many people who claim to be Christians, do not follow Him.), at bible camp with one of my now-best friends.

**She cried for an hour. It was hilarious.

Secondly

This website is mostly about God. I really want people to know a little more. There are so many influences in this world - - and none towards Him. Many are in commercials - sex appeal - or movies. They swear in practically every song on the radio...

But...that's what people want, right? People think being bad is...cool, isn't it?

Well, yes. I used to love guys with power (omigosh, I know that sounds so dumb, but if you read romance novels you'd understand), and it was fun to picture myself as an assassin or whatever. I know...I'm a loser.

Anyways, yes, I believe that people love to be bad - and they constantly have reminders of it.

This website is for use of people with questions - people who want to know a few things - people who need a way out (that doesn't lead to a cold, rainy day, and mahogany coffin).

And thirdly

I believe that we are all in charge of our eternity. There are two possible ways: Heaven or Hell.

Frankly, I don't know why anybody would choose Hell.

We are free to choose our own eternity. What is eternity anyways? Eternity is life after death - afterlife - the happy place - whatever you want to call it. It's what happens after we choose to walk with God, or without Him.

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I want to know...

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Be honest, do you truly believe in God?

- - by this I don't mean - do you read the bible, do you go to church, are you planning on being a priest(ess)?

~ Are you the one who believes in a higher power - but you don't really believe in Jesus, and the whole bible thing?

~ Are you the one who thinks an asteroid blew up, and created planets, and stars - - and people? With fingernails? Did I mention, I have ADD? Seriously now, think about it. Some giant piece of rock, exploded - and somehow - creating boiling hot stars/suns, and well formed planets...and then it created Earth - and it even created micro-organisms that eventually turned into people?

I'd like to know - - please, go to my 'Contact Me', page, and just leave your thoughts. Feel free to leave it anonymous - you can tell me not to reply directly - and I'll just write it out on my 'Answering Your Questions' page.

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You want to know what I believe?

^^ I believe that Adam and Eve - Don't know who they are? I'll explain that later...or just e-mail me, and i'll put it up, right away - were the first to live on Earth. They were born as adults in the Garden of Eden - which was totally Holy and everything opposite sin - infact - there was no such thing as Sin (I believe). I believe that when the devil tempted Eve to eat the apple of the forbidden fruit tree - they broke the rules - and were cast from Eden. This is why we are born sinful. This is why, even when we are little babies - we sin. Even though we don't do anything wrong - we are bad. ^^

Right now, you might be thinking - oh, wow, lady. I am now convinced--you are crazy.

Picture this...if you can.

God (in my eyes...and many other peoples') is perfect. You know all those t-shirts that say - - Miss Perfect? Well, that's definately NOT true. God...is totally opposite Sin. He is...incapable of being near it...

...and yet...He still loves us.

This is what I still don't understand. How could somebody so perfect, graceful, and amazing love us? No...love me? What have I ever done to deserve it?

My friend (who cried for an hour), told me that God knows you in and out. He knows how many cells are in my body. He knows how many hairs are on my head.

See it this way - - when you write a piece of music, or make a game plan - you know everything about it, right? You know how to play it, how to maneuver your body - and how to make it better.

Those things are your creations. We are His.

If you've ever heard someone say - I love Him so much...and they were talking about God - - it's not the kind of love that you might think. At first I was like "Whoa, how could I love someone I don't even know? And how does He love me?" It's not lover love, friend love, or the kind of love you show your cat. God is your Father. He loves you like a father. 

You know when your mom tells you all those stories about how excited your dad was when he found out she was pregnant? Well, he's excited because you're his. God created you. Every bone in your body.

He did not just scatter random bodies everywhere and make them awaken. He did not just clone people. When you're playing with playdough (with a little kid of course, because you're wayy too old to be playing with playdough), you cannot just make it appear. It's got to start with a hand...then an arm. Eventually, you'll have little body parts everywhere that you have to stick together.

But it's so much more complicated than that. He shaped your personality - how you look - how you act. He knows your past, present, and future. He knows what you'll do in five years. He knows who your first crush will be. He knows everything.

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I have a question for you. I was thinking about how he knows everything, and wondering "well, if He knows everything - does he know if we're going to follow Him into Heaven already? Is that why he keeps pushing us?

Please, e-mail me, if you have an answer.

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If you have any questions on what I said above, then just e-mail me. If you want to know more, let me know.

On to a different topic...

Why don't you believe in Him? What are the reasons?

If you can relate to any of these, let me know:

**You are too busy.

**Church is boring.

**Your whole family isn't Christian and your dad's Marilyn Manson.

**Your friends think it's dumb.

**You gave up on Him a long time ago when he didn't come through.

**You live for life.

**You don't have enough money to survive and follow Him.

~ No one is too busy for God. He's always there, and He's always waiting. You can only push him away so many times. Because he loves you - He will let you choose, and only urge you a few times. After that, he's not gone completely - but He won't pressure you. It is entirely your decision - and yours alone.

~ Yes, church is very boring. I believe that the purpose of a church is to be surrounded by a positive influence. There are many Christians in this world (like myself) who are Jesus-followers. And Jesus-followers try their best to follow the commandments, and not commit the deadly sins. If you're trying to save yourself for marriage - - being in a church will be much easier than a bar in Las Vegas.

~ I sincerely hope your father isn't Marilyn Manson. :) Luv his music tho. - - Anyways, if your whole family is Christian - I urge you, it is TOTALLY AND ENTIRELY up to you. You are the one who has to decide. They can kick you out, they can threaten you. But if you believe in Him - they can't take that away from you.

~ Screw your friends! - Maybe you should get friends that actually support you!

~ God always has a plan. He always knows what's coming. Say someone you loved passed away - and you lost faith because He didn't save this person. Why would He take this person from you? Do you think he's trying to punish you? (I believe) If he's going to punish you - He should punish you. And God does not purposefully hurt people! He has a reason - and you will only understand when you are standing in front of him, surrounded by happiness.

~ You live for life. My paster for bible camp said (and I believe this too), that our lives are only a scratch in the line of Eternity. Can't see it? Picture an extension cord...it goes on forever (but there aren't any annoying knots in this one). Take a pen and draw a small line somewhere near the start.

- - - - - That's your life. That tiny scratch. Why would you waste your life(which is already super short)! Look at the long line...would you like to spend that in "Hell"? Or blissful Heaven?

**Live for the line.

~ There is a passage in Matthews 6:25-34.

It reads:

Do Not Worry

"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds in the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lillies on the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itswelf. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

 

...Jesus said that! Yay!

:))) <-- those would be double chins...;)

ONE MORE THING BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP:

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When you picture Hell - - what do you see?

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Do you see Fire? Torture?

E-mail me.

I will write later what I believe - but only if I get e-mails. :)

Thank you for reading!!

Until tomorrow,

Dani.


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Hello Danni for my part i do believe like a lot of people in the concept of a greater power despite being told on numerous occassions that the bible is the biggest book of fiction ever written.

I however do believe that the bible is authentic and it predicts the future as well as telling us what has gone and what is happening right now that's true.

I think the whole idea of christianity and church however is a bit like going to a funeral we need comfort and compassion from fellow human beings we need something to believe in throughout our lonely lives but i totally agree with your statement "BEING BAD IS REALLY QUITE GOOD AND MORE THAN THAT IT'S COOL" this comes from our friendly natives of africa who spread their wings and flew to many a nest including the U.S and the U.K everybody likes to be associated with the rapp crap and dangers of gangland because these people are thrill seekers and they want to be part of the action.

When i die i will be either a pile of old bones or a pile of dust that is my shell but the soul which makes up the human being and gives it energy,vibrance,personality and determination will live on and probably end up somewhere in the spirit world have you checked out my novel "twilight-spirits of the lost world?"

Finally i used to be a christian and now i am just a believer my church's policy was modernesque with sowing the seeds of revival and young kids being made to feel important with the youth work etc,missionaries working overseas and all that jazz.

They also qualified you as a christian depending on your financial standing in the local community which i found hard to swallow so i left.
The excellent leader of that church has also gone now and a female pastor has taken over there was a power struggle and i got out at the right time.

I did try the traditional church for a year but the congregations were too small and never felt part of the set up besides i was only made welcome by the pastor in that instance.
It's been a while since i attended service and i do miss it but i also believe that being a jesus follower is the right course to take, there was one other church Jesus army which again i have been a part of over these past few years but it's too post modern with their 1970's deco and flag waving i nearly moved in to one of their houses but you must surrender all of your wealth and material items this proved a hard bullet to bite.
Good luck with your thread and remember i'm always hear for a chat.

I don't know how to e-mail you but maybe that can be sorted soon bye for now BD PS i've changed my profile,photo and written two more poems about the ANGEL OF DEATH AND KNIFE CRIME please let me know what you think of them BYE BUFFERDUDE

Posted: Aug 21, 2008

Author Comment:

Okay! Thanks!

Yeah, I go to church like once a year-but I don't believe Church is a necessity for believing. Like i said in my For his glory thing - I believe it's just a way for people to get together. And with the help of daily readings, they stay up-to-date. I haven't read the bible for a while, to my great shame, and so, I think if I was in a church, it would help, but I live so far out, it's hard to get to town. :) Oh, and, the bible has so many teachings and lessons in it. :) If you're lost on something to do with spirituality, personality, and morals - check out the bible, because it's got tons of pick-me ups. :)

Thanks so much for commenting, and I will definitely read Angel of Death and Knife Crime, but I've got to update Hugs, Kisses and Pain, because the readers are going kind of insane - so I will read it as soon as I have a free moment. Thanks again!

Dannika.

Be honest, do you truly believe in God?
I cant say that I don’t. but I know I don’t truly..

- - by this I don't mean - do you read the bible, do you go to church, are you planning on being a priest(ess)?
I don’t read the bible but I’ve read Mathew 5,6,7 and I believe that’s the rules that jesus wants us to live by… not the ten commandment. I believe Jesus come down to earth to teach us just that.. I believe Mathew 5,6,7 is the most important thing in the bible..i hate it when people say gods rules are he teth commandments. Yes they were but not anymore..
I go church every Sunday but by force so I don’t listen to a thing they say.. my parents come from a none English speaking background so they don’t go to a church that speak English so I don’t quite understand what the priest is saying.. so I think church for me is pointless when its being force. No don’t plane to be a priest(ss). never

~ Are you the one who believes in a higher power - but you don't really believe in Jesus, and the whole bible thing? I cant say I don’t believe… but theres a part of me that doubt the whole thing higher power thing
~ Are you the one who thinks an asteroid blew up, and created planets, and stars - - and people? With fingernails? Did I mention, I have ADD? Seriously now, think about it. Some giant piece of rock, exploded - and somehow - creating boiling hot stars/suns, and well formed planets...and then it created Earth - and it even created micro-organisms that eventually turned into people?
I think that’s it’s the most stupidest idea… (No offence to scientist)
IT’S SOO STUPID!!! It give you no reason to live..
All its saying is that life is a accident and there’s no point of living..

I don’t believe in hell or heaven the way most people believe it..
I don’t think there’s a place such as eternity.
To me hell doesn’t exist..
And heaven is a place on earth where you feel truly happy with the people you love…
That’s my idea of heaven …

I have a question for you. I was thinking about how he knows everything, and wondering "well, if He knows everything - does he know if we're going to follow Him into Heaven already? Is that why he keeps pushing us?
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I don’t think he knows if we’re going to follow him into heaven already..
That’s why he’s always open to us.. in case we choose to turn back to him at the last moment…
I believe he always hoping that someday we might turn back… always hoping, always loving us.
He’s not pushing us, he’s testing us…
The greater the test, the greater we prove our faith…
He pushes us so that he know that we are willing to leave ever thing for him…or not?

“Why don't you believe in Him? What are the reasons? “
A part of me don’t believe in him cause I’ve lost touch with what I once felt with him.. and I know it…
Hopefully someday I might be able to feel him again.
one other reason is that church is boring

“When you picture Hell - - what do you see?”
I see nothing in hell
Just a plainly darkness.. nothing else..
This is my fear, that’s why its my hell..
No-one to reach out within the darkness
I think hell is something you fear the most, so hell would be different for everyone.
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ok.. i dont know what else to say...
soo bye...
sis
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Posted: Aug 21, 2008

Author Comment:

Yeah, I loooove Mathew's book.:) It's so uplifting! There are only two commandments:

The first:

You will worship no other Idols above the Lord God your saviour

The Second:

You will respect your neighbors.

The rest of the commandments fall into respect your neighbors - which means basically - respect EVERYBODY!!

Like, not stealing, not killing, no adultery - all respecting other people. :)

That's what I believe in. :)

haha. I don't even go to church! Like when I said, church is basically there so that people don't forget about Him and remember to try again. It's like a little pick-me-up. :)

Haha, i don't want to be a priestess either.

i am a christian to be christian is to be christ like which is another name for jesus. now you say you don't believe in church but the bible says do not forsake the gathering with follow believers i 'll can the scripture tonight and post it for you. if you go to church twice a year now to get feed ? reading the bible is not enough for in the book of corithians it is said that God gave pastors, evanglists etc to edify his word. but i must say i agree with u in almost everything you say

Posted: Aug 21, 2008

Author Comment:

Okay. Thanks...I kind of feel bad now, cause you totally guilted me into it...S' okay tho, I just feel like less of a Jesus Follower. Maybe I phrased it wrong...maybe not. idk.

I do believe in church, i'm just saying what I think the whole point of church is:

It's a place where people can get together and learn together. Like i said, it will be easier to follow God's way if you GO to church, because you're surrounded by people who are like you in that way. It's better to go to church but he won't hate you if you don't.

Maybe I'm wrong idk.

Okay, well, when I said reading the bible - I meant, basically, it's full of lessons. Through these lessons that Jesus taught (I haven't read the old testament yet), we are able to be better christians.

Idk.

Dannika.

OMG I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*hug*
let me tell you something. i'm in 10 grade right now. when i was in 6 i hated life. i was depressed and sad and bitter because my sister was hurt, my parents were divorced, and my step parents were mean. i went to bible camp that summer and gave up my music....so in 7 grade i was a goth kid who didn't listen to music and siad that i hated guys...even though i was just scared of them >.> longer story

ONWARD! the next summer i went to the same bible camp (which is THE best bible camp EVER) and i gave up a few of my friends. and i let go of some of my amazingly large black jackets that i wore everyday cuz i'm anemic and cold all the time. anyway the jackets aren't important...or are they >.>
so i started talking to guys now...it was hard...but whatever...

the next summer (same camp) i FINALLY gave up my past. along with my past i gave up my bitterness with my parents (even though they put me through SO much. you seriously have NO idea)
Onward
this past summer i gave him my life. i have never been happier. seriously.. the bible says to find a closet in Matthew 6 and meditate with Him in there. i love to do that. it is the highlight of my day. i love to go to church now. even though i have to see my step mother there i still enjoy it thoroughly. i love god. i can't get enough of him. and i want him to use me in his will. i hope that one day i will be strong enough to say proudly (and not be lying) that i'm a CHRISTIAN. i hope that i can love as much as he did. and give people what He has done for me. he died on the cross. i think that it's the LEAST i can do to just give him my life. i can't wait to see what he does with me. until then i will walk with him everyday. i hope you go to church every chance you get. cuz it's there that you will find the most amazing opportunities....

Here is the most wisest thing that has ever been said by my pastor (i'm baptist) he said "Don't look at something as an obstacle, instead look at it as an opportunity" i love my pastor, i love my life, i love writing, and living, and having my friends, but what i love more is my God who gave that all to me

Posted: Aug 21, 2008

Author Comment:

. . . . . . . Dude, I totally love you . . . . . .

I need help! I suck compared to you! I barely ever pray anymore! All I do is sleep and eat, and talk to my friends. Oh, my gosh! I'm soooo dumb!

Argh! How can you do this>?! How can you totally devote your life to him? I'm just so darn lazy!!!!!! waaaaahhh.....

Anyways, i'm gonna try that closet meditation thing, but...how do you do it?


Dude, you're amazing, and by the way, i'm kind of anemic too. We thought it was hemocromatosis, but nope, i've got an iron deficiency! haha. Anyways, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!

Dannika.

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believe in one god, one heaven, one hell...
(not registered user)

hi dannika,

i like the way you exp[lain your beleifs and what they mean to you and what they can mean to anyone.

however, i think it would be good, if you tried to open ur mind some more by studying islam aswell.

being a muslim, for me, i also find it useful to look into the other religeons closest to mine i.e judaism and christianity, seeing as they all have many aspects in common. all except one, the book itself.

the bible and the torah, have been edited throughout time, but the quran is known for its authenticness. it would be great if just once, you could read the english translation, and hear the voice of the quran. although the translation may not be as accurate and moving as the original arabic text...

Posted: Aug 22, 2008

Author Comment:

I actually work at a bookstore right now, and they have a book called Qur'an. I was gonna check it out, cause I was reading about soemthing to do with Religion online, and it mentioned the Qur'an. :) Thank you so much for being nice and respectful.

I think it would be interesting to study other things, but when it comes to my faith, it's God. But you're right, I think many of them are really close together. :)

Dani.

Bruce
(not registered user)

I hope someday you evolve beyond this.

You believe in a deity who will send you to a place of eternal torment if you fail to worship him? If God exists he hasn't made a personal appearance in over two thousand years yet he expects us to believe or suffer in everlasting fire?

Beliefs are dependent on where one is born and what one is taught or exposed to. If you were born among South American natives you would worship the Gods of the forest and believe in them as much as you believe in Christ. Are the people who are of differing faiths going to burn in hell as well?

Yet he loves us?

Sounds more evil than divine to me.

Posted: Aug 22, 2008

Author Comment:

You make a fine point, my friend. I understand what you mean. It's a question i've been thinking about too. And, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. That's why it's called Faith. He's the only God I've ever known, and I care about him. If he doesn't exist, well, then whatever.

I'm not saying you have to worship him or anything, that wasn't the point of this story. This was simply what I thought, not what YOU have to. :) Thank you for writing, but I don't know what to say.

You can believe what you want.

And the eternal torment? I don't believe it's if I fail to WORSHIP him. I don't really know. All i've done for him is admit I sin, and try to be good to my neighbors. All he asks is so simple, that I wouldn't call it WORSHIP.

All I can say is, good point.

I hope you find whatever you're looking for in your future.

Dannika.

^///^
um thanks? XD
i'm nowhere as good as you think. trust me XD
i just pray with God when i'm in my "closet"
i talk to him as if he were right there and had no idea what was going on in my life. it usually helps me figure out my feelings too ^^
if i have a problem i bring it to him...i tell him the details about it and ask him to give me wisdom and for me to do the right thing for that situation. and then i read a chapter in the bible. i'm in matthew right now..(which is why Matthew 6 contents were so fresh in my mind :3

praying is just talking with God. the bible says in Matthew 21:22 that when we pray we should expect to recieve. and if we don't recieve it then accept it as God's greater Will.
Philippians 4:19 "But my God shall supply all your need ACCORDING to his riches in glory" or according to what we've done so far

I peter 5:7 tells us to Give God All of our problems and he'll take care of us. (i hope you don't have a NKJV)

James 4:2 "Ye have not, because ye ask not"

and james 4:10 says that we should humble ourselves before god. i personally think that we should do this in our closet, not infront of people.

Hebrews 10:25 talks about church and Romans 12:1-2 is what convicted me to give my life. those are only a few of the amazing verse in my bible.
i want to learn more though XD
anyway....didn't mean to preach just thought those verses would help you grow :3

Posted: Aug 22, 2008

Author Comment:

I do. I have the King James version. It's hardd, but it's oka.haha. Do what in our closet? What does humble mean? Like to humble yourself? Why shouldn't we do it in front of people?

Yes, thank you so much!! I like 'em.

to Bruce:

let me tell you that the Bible has proven itself over and over, and only an incompetent fool would deny it.
would you like to nkow why you dont believe in God???
it's because god aks us to love him more than anything else in this world, more than a spouse, family, child, and life itelf. and if you admit that you DO have an obligation to him because he DIED FOR YOU then that means you have to serve him. and you're just selfish cuz you don't want to give him your life. i do admit that there are a lot of hypocrites in the world that claim to be christian, but if you meet an actual christian then you would have no doubt about God because they just seem to have a light about them. something that makes them uniquely different. a joy. something you don't have.
all you have to do to go to heaven is to believe in god and admit that he does exist and that he's the only one that can take you to heaven.
you don't see the natives carrying a bible do you?
i hope you read this. i hope that you actually look at the bible and try to find one thing that disproves it. i pray one day you'll be able to believe. whether it's in this lifetime, or at the Great White Throne Judgment Seat of God.

Posted: Aug 22, 2008

Author Comment:

Whoo!!!! You tell him girl!!!!!!!!!

haha.

Dani.

One of my classmates actually said that God was a government conspiracy!!! I mean, what fucked up shit is that?!!?

Be honest, do you truly believe in God?
No. Why? Sure, religion helped many people, but I do not want to believe in a god that lets children be hungry all their lives, die or be born with retarded. Because of that, I am an atheist.

Did everything came from a big bang you ask? Everything in the universe was created by itself? Yes. Thats why it took billions of years. No, God did not create anything.

When you picture Hell - - what do you see?
I see a good story plot for a movie or a novel.

Honestly, if there is a God, and I ever get to meet him, I would punch him in the face.

I hope you will understand this and forgive me for being kind of bitchy.



Posted: Aug 22, 2008

Author Comment:

Yes, I sure do understand. And, yes, I understand about the children and the retardation problems. I don't really know what to say - because I've never been sure why he doesn't just save them.

All I can say is that I think it's a test of their faith. Do you seriously think this world would prosper if NOBODY died of hunger?! I mean, there's a certain weight capacity that the earth can hold, and I know that makes HIM sound evil, but that's it.

I don't see fire in hell, or anything like that. I just see separation from god. That's it, and that in itself is scary. You'll never meet God, I don't htink, cause wellj, He knows you want to punch him in the face. And, if he did want to save you, I think he would let you punch him, just so you could let your feelings out. haha.

Nobody really understands him.

I appreciate your comment.

Dani.

Right so what the guy said above me hurt me, you wanna know the reason why children in africa are hungary? IT OUR FAULT THE WESTERN WORLD DID THAT TO AFRICA AND ALL THOSE POOR COUNTRIES! Why did God allow it? God isn't one who just says "I AM THE MIGHTY ONE, EVERYONE MUST FOLLOW ME OR I'll punish them." no The amazing thing about our Glorious God is he gives us a choice. We can choose life or death for ourselces, he won't minupilate us or take over our minds, he lets us choose the path we are to take. So the westeners that came to africa are the ones that did this, they divided up the continent all wrong so that ethnic groups that shouldn't be anywhere near each other are placed in the same country, causing ear corruption and starvation! And also alek 92, do you know that there is a devil, he is the one the comes into the lives of those who sinned, people in africa have sinned and so have brought it among themselves, God doesn't allow it...they allow it. I know its hard to grasp but try to think about.


Any way Danika I'm so happy I found your article! I just loved, your on fire for God and I'm glad your christian camp helped you with this!

You have a good sense of humor, anything about marylin manson makes me laugh, he's so weird. Comment on my page and I'll tell you more about myself! I'd love to get to know you better and how you came to know God!

Oh and I'm wondering what you think of what I said about poverty, I tried man...anyway stop by my page read my Jesus inspired poetry!!

God bless you sista!

Posted: Aug 22, 2008

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YEAH!!! YOU'RE AMAZING!! I DON'T NOW WHY I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT GIRL. Sure, there was always hungry, but it's our fault.

Some other person that commented mentioned that she thought it was all a test. She thought that the people over there were being tested on their faith.

In Matthew, there is a passage called do not worry.Yes, that was actually in this article, but really - - - - - - DO NOT WORRY! haha. What do they think missionaries do? They help these people to know god.

Love you chica! Thanks for being so nice, cause with what Bruce said, i'm kind of confused. I think he hates me now.

Dani.

:(

I commented before. See above. Sure, if he does exist, and he doesn't, then I wouldn't let me punch him if I were him.

The world is the survival of the fittest. Its all about how lucky you are to be born in a different place. And its not just Africa, how about India and other poor Asian countries? What if your God is not the real God? What if Christianity is a big, fat lie? Do you know how the religion was made? There were and always will be stuff people can't explain, and here comes religion and God, the one who did it. But we are wrong in the end.

Posted: Aug 22, 2008

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Those places are poor because of US! Our greed for power, due to the fact that we're born with sin, it's the reason. If you don't want to admit it, because maybe YOU yourself didn't do it, but it's still a part of us. The Human race is selfish! Sinful! Some people, aren't selfish like that, well, not totally. The way it started was with Adam and Eve. Angels told people of this stuff, and then Jesus after them.

Think of this:

When Jesus was crucified: He was FLOGGED. That's not just wipping, ther'es nails on the whip. And then NAILS (or bolts) were hammered into his wrists. There's tendons in your wrist that...idk, cause maximum pain or something like that. THen his ankles were crossed and they were nailed there too. Do you seriously think, somebody would willingly let that happen, just to prove a point?! Jesus died for us!! Then, after when they took him down when he was fully DEAD, they put him in a cave and put a humongous bolder in front of it. Then, They placed like 10 roman soldiers in front of it. Do you think a normal human being could move that bolder, and then kill 10 ROMAN SOLDIERS? When he's dying. If you ask me, people can't heal from those fatal wounds in three days all alone in a dark cave with nobody. He is GOD!!

Again, you believe what you want - but don't try and convince me otherwise. Because, i'm not budging.

PLUS = = = HE IS SOOOO MERCIFUL! CONSIDERING ALL THE BAD WE'VE ALL DONE - HE FORGIVES US!! How can you not love him for that?! He gave his son for us, which was a part of him!

He gives us his holy spirit to help us be successful!!! But, if you don't believe, then, well, you don't have the holy spirit. And to the people in poor countries - (i'm so sorry, for them, because they're going through so much, and I wish I could help all of them), They're HUMAN TOO!!! When adam and Eve sinned - that tainted the rest of the HumAN RACE!! THEREFORE EVERY human is sinful. These people are no different from us, it's just we've got more opportunities here. Do you think they don't sin. They do. Some of them are AMAZING, believe me. SOME OF THEM ARE REALLY SMART, REALLY KIND AND COMPASSIONATE, but they all sin.

And Yes, there will always be things we can't explain, but that's where faith comes in.

Jesus Died For Me.

I'll Live For Him.

Dani. '


Thanks for commenting.

Wow- u posted something concerning the eternal question--I'm impressed.
I grew up in the Baptist church, and was "saved" when I was 7. As I've grown older, things have come out about my family- my father has 4 other kids from 2 women he knew before my mom-and before Vietnam. My half-brother I did know about committed suicide, both my parents were into some heavy drugs, my full sis has a learning disability--and the list never ends.
Anywho- With my experience in chuch--there are people in church who are understanding and love you, and ones who are there to socialize--or to judge. I've had some pretty big things brought out by "Christian" people I trusted who ended up hurting me, but I don't blame them. In the question of church--I believe that if you want to be there, and you are living happier-then you should go. But--I also believe that if- for example, someone is in prison-in solitary-and can't leave- they can have JUST as much of a "spiritual movement" within them as someone in church. I know that many times in church-I was WANTING to experience something like everyone else was, but I now see that EVERYTHING around me is an expeience. Before there were bulidings, there were the trees, and the earth. American Indians and many other religions incorporate the Earth as part of the "collecive soul". You can feel the sould of God eveywhere-even in the air. I know that sounds mystical--but I've done soooo much research and exploring into the Christian ideas, and others. Even C.S. Lewis--in "THe Chronicles of Narnia"- had his character Aslan(who represents Christ)- tell the others that one day, you will know me by another name. Maybe we all know God by different names. I DO think that humans can corrupt what the original ideas are, and I don't know if GOd WROTE the Bible- I wasn't there- but I do know that there were lots of literature written at the time of the Bible that were "apocalyptic"- which is the genre you would classify the Bible in. --tho who knows-- even if people wrote it--I believe that we are all part of God- and part of the world around us--so in acuality--we wrote it-and HE wrote it. In my reading of the Bible--and other religious books-they all seem to follow the same ideals-and that makes me glad-maybewe're all right. Nobody knows what happens when u die--I sure don't, but I think that wondering and doubt (as long as you have the desire to search keep searching is okay. There is alot of contradiction in the Bible, but then again-constantine did trim off the books- If you research it, there were many books taken out that did not follow a cannon(ie:rules like mention the name of God a certain numbers of times, be written by a known apostle---etc....

ALSO-- and most importantly--I think that people have an incorrect idea about GOd. I believe he has good and bad in him. I believe that a Christian, a Jew, a Muslim can be imperfect. Everyone says "Wht would Jesus Do?"--but eveytime I hear that-I say--well--God would have flooded the earth and killed all of the bad people probably- or Jesus would have thrown the table over in the church-- I dunno--there are so many people I love who have made such terrible choices, bu they are still great people and it in no way diminishes them. EVERYONE and everything has good and bad in it--I'm disenchanted by the Chrisitan belief that we should follow this perfect way of living. There's no such thing--and it feels SO much better knowing that. People give u such rehersed ways to talk in a church--many times u can sit in the park and close your eyes- feel the Earth- feel the wind and water- feel you thoughts--THAT"S God!! You don't need to be around other people, but if THAT's what makes u feel stronger, do it. I think mindlessly going because you think you have to fellowship is empty.
I recommend youread and research the writings of C. S. Lewis--or the talks of Rob Bell--he's a youth minister--u can get his Nooma videos--I can send u my notes on them if you'd like.
LAST_-my whole point has not been to say anyone is wrong. I think that once you find what is right for you, you can stop feeling like you're not doing it right. God doesn't want to hear your mindless prayers cuz it's what ur supposed to do--get out in the world--volunteer at a homeless kids daycare like I did and scrub down the bathroom knowing that those kids can't afford drugs--if they get a cold or pneumonia--it could be life threatening--I believe highly in the idea of "service"- you feel better doing that--and more spiritually full than a million hours singing 'shout to the lord' in a Wednesday night service. Learn ur faults, Don't JUDGE- believe me--if u haven't screwed up royally yet in life---ur time is coming, and don't accept that the way u HAVE to do it is what ANYONE says--YOU find a way--and don't let anyone tell u it's wrong to looka t other ideas or ways of thinking. Search for God--don't just swallow the medicine ur given. Become very in tune with how u feel. We have a natural reaction to what is right - try different things-- and ur ideas may change thru the years--it's all a step forward- and most of all---NEVER automatically think someone else is wrong- each person and experience is unique--
LEARN FROM THE PAST- AND MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS!

Posted: Aug 23, 2008

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I can't tell you I understand about your family because well, I've never been through those kinds of things. :(

Non-Christian
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First of all, Dani, I think you have expressed your thoughts quite well and coherently. I agree with some of your views - yes, in today's world, bad is considered cool for some reason. And that attitude needs to go.

Having said that, I ought to tell you that I am not a Christian, and never want to be. I have great respect for Jesus Christ, but at the same time, I think all the religions in this worlds taught something valuable to humankind. What I don't like about Christianity (note, I mean Christianity, and not Christ) is that the Christians try to put down the believers in other religions. That is very sad. Putting forth one's own beliefs is good, but putting down somebody else's isn't. What about a Muslim or a Buddhist or anyone else, who lives righteously, but does not call himself a follower of Christ? Does that mean he will go to hell? I am sure God (whatever one pictures him to be) is not so unjust. He would rather you live righteously and do a good job at whatever it is that you are doing rather than labeling yourself 'Christian' or anything else. I am a strong believer in God, but not in organized religion, because I think that organized religion is what has caused most amount of hatred and strife in today's world. People actually KILL other people because they are from different religions. And each is equally convinced of his own beliefs.

To BUFFERDUDE: Don't you know that attributing the ills of American culture to Africa is called being RACIST? Or do you want to join the Ku Klux Klan? It is because of comments like yours that the whole world is against America. Grow up, look outside your coccoon and learn to appreciate the cultures of other people. I am neither an American nor an African, and so I say these things without being biased.

Okay, back to Dani: Billions of people in this world, including I, do not believe in the Creationist theory. Agreed, the theory of Evolution also has many unexplained points as of now, but so does all the other theories. Deriding someone else's thoughts when one's own aren't proven either expresses one's own ignorance and arrogance.

Having said that, I would like to add that I really like the way you have written your piece in a cool, rational way and avoided attacking someone else. Your responses to people's comments also show that you have a mature thinking process and are not trying to push others into changing their beliefs. I commend that and wish you all the best for life.

Posted: Aug 23, 2008

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You're so amazing!! You are right about how good people won't go to hell if they aren't labelled Christian. :) That's why I use the term Jesus Follower rather than Christian. It's obvious that every religion believes in some kind of higher power, the only differences between mine and there's is apparently we must do certain things to please this higher power. That's true Christianity has caused so much pain. I am proud to label myself as Jesus follower, rather than Christian. I don't follow Their rules, I follow His.

And yes, I do appreciate every single person's comments. I realize everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how foolish that may be.

Some comments hurt me, but again, I don't have to lower myself to where they are just to receive satisfaction.

Thank you so much for commenting!! I totally appreciate it. Every body on this site just knows exactly what to say to make me feel better.

*sigh* I've read this ALL, so now I feel morally obligated to respond...'kay, here we go...I'll just answer your questions(the ones I CAN answer) as to not go into a too-extensive rant(just thinking of you, here)

1. No, I do not believe in god. Why? I find it hard to believe that one spirit/thing/whatever created EVERYTHING. I mean, what IS he, exactly, anyway? Like, literally. I have no idea.
2. I am the one who believes in evolution and the big bang...sort of. I'm still looking for the religion that tells me that there was a giant ball of matter, compacted and squeezed together, that exploded...but that explains WHERE that ball of matter and such CAME FROM.
3. I'm NOT too busy. My life is pretty boring all the time.
4. Yes, church is boring, but that's not an excuse.
5. My family's not religious, but I think the rest of 'em believe in god, at least. And, no, my dad's NOT Marilyn Manson
6. My friends don't think it's dumb. We frequently get into EXTENSIVE conversations pertaining to this topic, and most of them belive(to an extent, which makes it harder for ME, who finds it difficult to belive)
7. It's not that I gave up on god(even though i don't believe, I think it's a little cliche when people say they 'gave up' on him cuz life didn't work out...okay, i'm probably confusing you...sorry.)
8. I live for life and what life has to offer. I don't necessarily belive that we were put here(Earth) for a reason, but I'm currently contemplating that we're a freak of nature and when we die, we're nothing. Electricy runs through our brains and bodies, and, when it's gone, or turned off, there's nothing of US left, really...so...
9. and, it's not that I don't have enough money, it's just that I think it's unnecessary to give money to, well, basically the church, that does who-knows-what with it. it's like god is saying, "okay, give the church money, follow my command, and come to heaven." it just confuses me a little...i guess i don't see the point.

okay, that's all i'm going to say...oh, one thing, though...if god is truly opposite sin, and is all things good, then why(if he created everything) did he create sin and bad things? and, if he knows everything, then he would've known that humans were going to be well, basically a failed experiment, so why did he create them in the first place? or did his power of all-knowing kick in after he plopped adam and eve in the garden and told them to behave, leading him into an, "aw, crap! what did I just do?" moment? just curious. i can't seem to understand those points, in particular.

and, it's not that I(or any other nonbelievers, for that matter) REFUSE or CHOSE not to believe, it's that(for me, anyway) we CAN'T. And I speak for myself, here, and anyone else who agrees with me, when I say: I just find it a little(okay, a LOT) hard to comprehend and find plausible. Some people believe what is in front of them and can be proven...literally proven, and find it honestly difficult to believe anything else. I hope you don't think of me(us) as close-minded, but it's hard to explain right.

I hope I didn't offend you at any point in my comment. I promise, that WAS NOT my intention. I just wanted to explain to you my views, and I don't want to bash you, or what you belive. I'm sorry if I DID offend you, though. Truly sorry.

Posted: Aug 23, 2008

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No, no!! You didn't bash me! Haha. I appreciate you for commenting. You don't believe - but you were nice about it

To ANGELASTEELE:

For some reason I'm not getting your comment, probably because I'm on my blackberry.

So, I decided to write it here.

1stly, thanks SooOoo much for commenting and bring nice and opinionated about it.

2nd - I totally know what you mean about how Religion tears is apart, that's why I don't like it that much. I love God - not people or a building. I love the earth - which is part of God - and I love myself because He is in a part of me. :)

Haha. I laughed. Seriously that would be funny if somebody thought it was a mouse, just coz mice are so cute!!! Haha. But it could be, dude, I mean, God is in everything! Haha.

Okay? Well, I'm sorry I shared my thoughts. I simply wanted to see what people thought, because it's a really interesting topic, but some teenagers (like myself) don't really think God is interesting. And of course, some think it's uncool. Well, the only reason they think that is because, well, church is boring to some and "lame" to others, and therefore, God is "lame".

Yeah, so, I was just wanting to know people's opinions and that's what I like doing. Plus - I got a lot of help uh that department just by others' comments!!


Thank you ohsodifferent!! And thank you wandiola!!! PennieRitchie!!!! And Dom!!

And thank you Angela for commenting.

Posted: Aug 23, 2008

Hey what a way to write,good.God exist regardless how we call Him,He listen , i know this as a fact.Remember God give us what we need when we need it and the devil give us what we want when he wants to.

Posted: Aug 23, 2008

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Yeah, that's kind of what I think. :) Thanks for commenting.

Dani.

Eternity is not after or before you die - It is all time . Time and space- there was no space or time before te big bang; nothing was measureable- Thats the current thinking , and that the universe from a singularity- an infinitely small mass with infinintely massive density
Ok so far ; Oh and that this all happened at a point in time mathematically described as ' ten to the power of minus 28 seconds - that works out as a couple of billion years -
But this is all as mystifying as your basic Adam and Eve fundamental belief system.
Did you know that they have traced the human genome back to a single woman - genetically . call her what you will - but she was almost certainly black.
God is unknowable ; we can only grasp at a system of faith based on the evidence of life; its order -and how it could have evolved from the primordial soup- first you get an assembly of atoms .. forming a molecule - because of the magnetic attractions of these to one another; then in the right climate - fused with energy you could get a strand of DNA - a virus - which replicates - and then a unicellular organism .. then following Darwin - we arrive .Its not a faith based system ; rather one based on empirical evidence .
But stick at it .
Tell me ; If God is allpowerfull could that God make a weight that He could not lift ?
Im curious

Posted: Aug 24, 2008

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Wow. I failed science, dude. Haha. But you're real smart - and you have many good theories. I'm just not yet at your stature. :) aNyways, thanks so much for commenting!!

And I really don't know if he could create a weight he can't lift. I seriously doubt it, because, how could he possibly do that?! We have machines for things we can't lift. Sure, he could probably create it with his mind, but I think he holds up the entire universe, in a sort of way, so perhaps he could, unless this weight was more of a burden than the universe.


Very intriguing question my friend!

Thanks again.

Dani.

Organized religion makes the world rot...
No offense to you personally...

Posted: Aug 24, 2008

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Yeah, I agree in a way. I believe I God, but I think the bible has a lot of important information in it. :)

Ruth
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Wow, alot of different views in comments, that's cool! I believe the bible and I believe that Jesus Christ walked on her and was raised from the dead.

Basically, I see it like this...... There is Good and there is Bad. Why would man come up with good and bad? Because there was God (good) and Satan (bad). Unfortunately, God made the good, and Satan introduced the bad. Since God basically gave Adam & Eve a choice in the garden....eat all the fruit except off the one tree, because he knew Satan to be there. He wanted them to choose him. I mean if you loved someone and you weren't sure if they loved you? Wouldn't you want to know for sure if they really did? Well, yes Satan came from heaven and was cast out because he was jealous of God. He wanted to do all the things like God and be Powerful like God. God couldn't allow it. So he cast him out of heaven. Satan chose to go to earth. Since there was only Adam and Eve first he wanted to see how powerful he could be on earth. So he placed temptation in front of Eve. He saw it was quite easy to whisper lies to Eve and get her to choose him over God. God wanted Adam & Even to love him, to choose only him. But because of Satans whisper of lies they gave in to him. He made it enticing, desireable, delicious and knew the consequences of their choice would be great. So good and bad began. A Battle.....a everyday battle of fighting "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." God would of preferred us to choose him. To love him instead of choosing the bad. That's why there are commands from the GOD. If he is King, there are commands set by his kingdom. Say at first, in the old testament he set forth the 10commandments. The golden rules of living. But people didn't do too well with these commands because of the lies of whispers they would receive. So God wanted to make it easier. He decided to show my love I will give them another choice. I will offer them my gift of "Eternal life", life after death to come live in my kingdom forever if they will choose me over Satan. Since I want nothing to do with Satan and his evil. I will have to offer a sacrifice like the old testament ways. I will create a son in my own image and he will the resemblance of me in all things. He will be perfect. He will know no sin. So there came Jesus. Jesus was chosen as a male, perfect, no flaws, and he would walk on this earth and endure the hardships of every kind that will be on this earth because of Satan. So Jesus, walked on earth to tell everyone about God and his goodness, his love he had for everyone if they would choose him over the evil one, he would give them eternal life. But the commands would have to be only to simple..."For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosever believeth in him should not perish but everlasting life." and also said, If you confess with your mouth that Jesus died on the cross for your sins (our evil nature that started with Adam & Eve)believe that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" (meaning have eternal life), but yet also to sum it all up, was "Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind so you can test and approve what God's will is, his good pleasing perfect will." But seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all the things shall be added unto you."

Well, He decided that if Jesus would walk on earth and be perfect, he would be the living sacrifice for our wrongdoings. But only if we believe and walk by faith, knowing what we believe in and follow his ways. People didn't want to believe or accept this because Satan was running around whispering the lies we still believe today and so the lies have manifested itself through the years in which have become bigger and harder for others to believe in God. Jesus died as a sacrifice for our sins. So when we do sin and do wrong or the bad if we believe and walk by faith, he will give us forgiveness and we can live with him eternally. But, "no one comes to the father except through Jesus Christ his son." Meaning you can't get to God and his kingdom except through Jesus, by believeing and confessing he is God. So there's our choice.

We choose to do wrong we suffere the consequences through that wrong. The suffering of children or hunger, the innocent children taken or molested? God has shown himself in many ways to his people. Even if we get that miracle, we go back to our old ways our sinful ways. Man has chosen to go his own way. I believe the results of starvation and hunger is because there is no love in the world. Not alot of love in the world to want to go over there in other countries to help each other. Love goes along way, such as God's love for his own son to sacrifice for us. We have chosen not to help those in need, we.....no one else. Responsibility for one's actions seem to lie on someone else nowadays.....its our fault. Our wrong.....for the innocent who die? There is sin in the world from the evil one who wants to destroy. The man that chose to do bad.

Just my take on it all.......thank for letting me comment and give my view like everyone else.

Posted: Aug 25, 2008

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Oh, that's totally convincing!! And you have so much history to back you up. Thanks so much!!

I have one question plaguing me, though.

Why, if God is perfect, would he even create sin? Okay, you say Satan created Sin, but how would Satan get jealous if heaven is a place of perfect goodness? Why did God even create jealousy? Or insecurity? Or indecision? I guess so he could give Adam and Eve a free will, but where did Satan start? How could he have felt anger, jealousy and perhaps fear against the Lord - if God didn't create those emotions?

Thanks!!

Dani.

one God, one heaven, on hell..
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lots of people say, they dont beleive in god, but why is it when they are in pain, they turn to him? they say 'oh my god'. why is it when their death nears, then they think oh god forgive me?

i am a scientist,i beleive in the big bang theory, i beleive god made the big bang happen. i do not however beleive in evolution. there is evidence of human bones, and monkey bones, but there are no bones for a human-monkey?

humans and animals and every other living creature were not formed randomly and did not evolve out of ameoba-like cells. god almighty made them.

think about how each persons DNA is unique? in the holy quran, this fact is mentioned, and it was discovered centuries later.

i beleieve in scinece, that science is a way of god showing us what he can do. nobody in the world can create a human being, with everything precise, its too complicated, the sytems to thecells.

even flowers, can anyone make a flower?

can anyone make crude oil???

god made man from scratch, gave us intelligence and so many other gifts, and each one he made unique.

if there is no god, what happens when you die? u dont go sleep?

i think everyone in the world beleives in god, they jus find it hard to admit because they think its hard, or they think so much is expected of them.

islam teaches you to be good to one another and really jus decency and honesty, its not just a religeon, its a way of life.

muslims beleive in the holy prophet jesus (may peace be with him), and amongst all of the prophets he was the miracle worker. in the holy Qur'an jesus is mentioned many tyms. muslims beleive that mohammed (may peace and blessings be upon him) was the final prophet. amongst all other prophets in islam, these two are honoured, amongst moses (may peace be with him). but we beleive there is only one god, only Allah, we can only pray to allah, he created us, nobody else can be prayed to.

allah gave us free will, and we will be rewarded for good deeds and punished for bad deeds. so due to this fact there is no such thing as reincarnation in islam, nor is their such thing as somebody else paying for someone elses sins. everyone goes to his/her own grave.

i think, if anyone read about islam, they would love it, because its easy, its a religeon of peace, and its not strict at all, everythingas about your free will, its your will to choose.

think about this, has anyone ever learned about islam and then left god? never. the holy qur'an proves manythings which could not be proven. the first hospitals, first chemists, doctors, scientists came from muslim origin.

to those people who dont beleive in god, you do, u know you do, dont choose to ignore it.

Dannika, hope i havnet offended you in any way at all, becuase that wasn't the aim,i just wanted to give my oppinion because when people say they dont beleive in god, it hurts me, it disturbs me in many ways, beause they dont see the consequences of it.

Posted: Aug 25, 2008

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Oh, no, you definitely did not insult me!! I really appreciate your comment, and you're right! We all turn to God at some point in our life, and even at the end - he gives us a sliver of hope, and if we choose to act on that opportunity, we will be with Him for eternity.

And again, you are totally right. Some people don't believe in God because, number one - they don't want to have to follow his rules - but basically - all his rules are, are respect thy neighbors and worship no other Gods before Him. It's hard, yes, but it is totally worth it. I work at a bookstore, in fact I'm on my break now, and I saw a book called the Qur'an amidst all the other hundreds of books. I was recently looking up some information on mythical creatures, and I noticed the Qur'an was mentioned many times. So I intend to buy it as soon as I get paid, which is, well, today!! Yay! Anyways, thanks soooo much for commenting - I agree with everything you said!!

Oh, and I apologize if I insulted you in this response, or in my article - not my intention.

Thank you!

Dani.

Very intriguing question my friend!

No - Its not.
Its not really; its just a conundrum ; the question does not make any logical sense; the question suggests that this a plausible task - it is not ; It is an implausible question - the simpler version of which would be ' when did you stop beating your wife' - as lawyers do, Its the conjures trick with words; rather than rabbits
And I'm not so smart but I do feel I may have pitched this rhetoric a bit above your pay grade as they say .
But here's something you might think about;
What convinces you that God is of necessity - Good;
Why could he not equally be evil and this whole bit be a macabre joke .
The reason we cant countenance such a proposition is that its consequences are too subversive and appalling to perceive.
But if you had to write an essay in defense if such a proposition - how would you approach it ??

Posted: Aug 25, 2008

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...okay, I totally forgot what the intriguing question was...hmmmm.....

I'm sorry, i'm kind of dumb. haha. I'm only in grade 11~~!haha. Maybe you are too, although I hope not, cause that would make me feel bad.

love those who deserved to be loved hate those who deserve to be hated, christianity is a plague on humanity, people devote there entire lives to a fairy tale because of brain washing, aulturism is retarded, you know you exist, be selfish, a free spirit, do everything for yourself, thus spoke, Lucien Remeese 666

Posted: Aug 25, 2008

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...okey dokey. Are you like pretending to be the 'satan of the web' or something, because, seriously.

Dude...

If you don't believe in God, and you're not gonna have a lot to back you up - - then most are going to assume things. :_

Yes, I kind of feel ORGANIZED RELIGION is a plague on humanity - but not Jesus.

And you seriously think that God (or other people) are brainwashing us?

This kid in my class thinks that God is a government conspiracy - like the government just made up this whole thing!? Yeah....okay, well, your theory is tied with his.

But, believe what you will, I won't push you into what you want.

Thus spoke, Dannika Black.

All im gonna do is say one thing.
The way everyone sees Marilyn Mansen is actually an act.
Behind that makeup and clothes is a very very smart man.
and im SICK of people juding him

Posted: Aug 25, 2008

Author Comment:

Dude, i'm not judging him. I actually like his music. haha.

And seriously, take a chill pill. He doesn't need your help. He made the choices he made, and made himself look that way because he wanted to, and frankly, you should stay out of it. Did he ask you to back him up?

No.

You might feel all righteous because you're helping a person (that doesn't want to be helped), but seriously - telling ME isn't helping the situation.

Yes, i'm sure he's a smart man - i mean he's got some good music.

Oh, and another thing - - - I only mentioned him ONCE! Why are you talking to me about this? He makes crazy videos with him on a cross - what kind of shit is that?

So, just mind your own business, because I don't really care about Marilyn Manson, I said his name once, and I was done - and plus, it was a joke.

You didn't have to be a jerk.

Dani.

I think that your Article is awesome! It is well written!
=) I for one am a Christian or at least view myself as one. It use to be that my mom forced me to go to church every Sunday. Well, that is after she split up with my dad and she started going to a different church. Every time i went there i just hated it, hated change. Ever since than i have gotten used to that church and willingly go. The problem i think now is that i don't think i have a close relationship with God. Which leaves me to go to church on Sunday and not feel the holy spirit in me as we worship. I don't exactly understand why though. I know that i need to read the bible and i have (but not the whole thing). I have confessed my sins. It really saddens my heart to think that i don't feel the holy spirit within me and I'm not sure what to do. So i just wanted to see what your opinion was on that.

Posted: Aug 25, 2008

Author Comment:

Well, I think that, just because you go to church, doesn't make you close to Him. I understand for some people, singing and what not helps, but I think you have just as much spiritual movement when you're not in church.

If you read some of the other comments, it helps A LOT!! I learned a lot from it.

I don't feel Him within me either Chris, I just....I don't know, I WANT to. I WANT to love him, but it's hard when I don't know Him. I've never seen a miracle or anything. I'm sure he's helped me, but I don't even notice! I WANT to be a good Jesus follower, I WANT to follow the two commendments that everyone should follow. I have doubts coming out my ears! I want to die just so I can go to heaven and prove to MYSELF that He is real.

The best advice I have for you is go outside and sit in a nice grassy park (preferrably not on an anthill) and just listen. Meditate. Go all punjab and just let yourself relax. Once you're calm, breathe in and out a few times, and just...talk to Him. Ask Him to talk to you somehow, because you really wanna be with Him. You really wanna be near Him. Tell Him he's amazing because He's created this whole world, and it's MAGNIFICENT! Tell Him that you WANT to love him. Don't lie and say you do, just say you WANT to, and he'll try and help - for everybody, it's different.

If a park isn't available - sit on your bed in the middle of the night.

Tell him, that you know you Sin, and that you believe Christ was indeed God, and He died for YOU. He died because he loves YOU!

Try that. I know you said you confessed your sins and what not. Perhaps you didn't do it right (now, i'm totally not insulting you or anything, I don't really know how to do it, i'm just offering). But don't set yourself up for that. Don't meditate believing you did it wrong, because if you still don't feel close to him after that, the disappointment will choke you.

Just...speak to Him as if He were your father - cause he really is. Speak to Him as if He were standing right in front of you, holding your hands. Wish with all your heart that He was there with you, guiding you into His arms.

It will be fine, Chris.

There's two commandments in my opinion:

Worship no other God because the Lord your God,

and

Respect your neighbors.

All the rest fall into the latter.

So, I know it's hard - and you dont' have to be perfect - but try at least a little to respect those around you - even if you don't like them.

Of course you can't completely stop HATING people in your mind - but you can stop telling them you hate them with your eyes, and mouth.

So, try that stuff, and if i'm wrong - that's cause I don't really know anything about this - this is just my theory.

Even though I don't know who you are, or what has happened in your life, I love you, and He loves you, forever and always, until eternity.

Wow, sorry about that. (XxsportsmvpxX is my "best" friend) He gets like that, and as usual people get really offended. (You should have seen him leaving messages on the jonas brothers myspace about how they aren't that go and that he doesn't get have people could be there fans or something like that.) He isn't a Christian like i am, but we became really close. I wish he would go to church. Maybe than he would. I don't want him to go to hell "because we are really close" despite his many problems. I pray for him but i don't really know what else to do if he doesn't want to. =(

Posted: Aug 25, 2008

Author Comment:

Yeah, I totally understand. I wasn't really offended - just a little shocked that the only thing he noticed was that one little comment on Marilyn Manson at the top. haha. It was just kind of...abrupt.

Anyways, you can tell him i'm sorry if I insulted him, I totally didn't mean to. haha.

So, yeah. Oh, and tell him if he was just planning on making fun of me, or beaking at me, that he shoudln't have even read it. If you're a non-christian - and you just wanted to make fun of someone, why would you even read the article entitled, My beliefs on Christianity and the holy trinity?

Anyways, I replied to your previous comment - hope you enjoy reading it. haha.

DAni.

Ya thank you for the advice. I really shouldn't beat myself up about it. I just don't really know what to do when it comes to worship. I use to think that "I'm really great full but do i have to really sing about it." The sign in the beginning of church says prepare your heart for worship but i don't know how. Anyways, i sent him the url to this article thinking maybe it would help and i guess that was the only thing that stuck out at him. =/ Oh well.

Posted: Aug 25, 2008

Author Comment:

Okay, well thanks tho! I hope it helped just a little. Some people on this site are starting to bug me just a little , so i'm gonna go to sleep now. haha.

Anyway,s nighty night - - unless it's like morning wherever you are. haha.

Dani.

Ruth
(not registered user)

Good question. I've pondered this question as well.
I think about the verse "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John1:1

I was talking with someone last night about this very thing. Have you ever loved someone so much but yet they didn't love you back? It's hurts right? I started thinking.....here is this Most Powerful , awesome God that knows everything before it happens and if he created all things and he is the beginning? Perhaps he wants to feel loved as much as he loves us. Perhaps he wanted it to be our choice to love him and it not be forced upon us. That's why he wanted us to choose him. But yet, we still wouldn't love him the way he loved us because of his greatness. Knowing that he had to give us the free will, our choice to choose to love him and need him. That's when Satan came in to play. Allowing him to choose, letting him create such emotions as jealousy, anger, hate, leading the whole thing in which we would have to choose him over evil. The love he had for us was so great that he thought perhaps I can't force it on someone because it won't be true, therefore, I allow them to go their own ways and choose the paths given. If they choose me, eternal life.....if they choose the other path, then so be it. Knowing already what will become, but needs that fullfilment of knowing we chose him. But due to his own prophecy he created he has to let everything be until it us fulfilled. Does that make sense?
Anyway, that's what I have felt led to say to your question. I guess when the time comes will all know.
Thanks for letting me share my view once again.

Posted: Aug 26, 2008

Author Comment:

Oh, that's so sad! I feel kind of bad for Him now! He kind of reminds me of Jacob from Twilight *although I can't compare Him to a mere mortal(or wereworlf*, just because not all of us love Him, and even those who love Him will never love Him as much as He does them. It's so sad!

To me i think the greatest commandment is to love. Love one and other as yourself. Love the lord your God to the best of your ability's. Love your neighbor. Its all basically the same. Just Love. =)

Posted: Aug 26, 2008

Author Comment:

Yeah, that's totally true, dude! But it's really hard to love everybody. :(

O.O wow awsome! Hello sister in Christ, this is AMAZING! AMEN! Oh and I want you to know a random interesting fact =P In Genesis it says God seperated the "waters" not water from the sky, and the sky became the exapnce between "Them" it says other stuff too but this is the interesting part. There is a theory that God made an atmosphere of water around the earth. This water layer doubled pressure on earth, doubled the amount of oxygen and it blocked all of the UV rays from the sun wich cause aging. Therefore the idea that Adam and Eve lived to be houndreds of years old is actually scientificaly possible. The pressure doubles growth as does the oxygen, and that not only gives proof for the fist mens' age it only gives proof for dinosouars. Reptiles actually never stop growing. So imagine a snake or iguana that lived longer, and grew two to four times as fast. Interesting isnt it? Even fruits grew bigger, including the apple, who's seeds hold a special chimical that fight cancer ;) They even had better health then, and less risk. Yet before Noah, there was actrually no rain, water tunnels under the earth feed the plants, thats why no one belived Noah about the flood. So the flood wasd porobrably that large atmosphere falling onto the earth, and thats why its no longer there. Some dinosaurs merely shrunk over time and lost health and life span, just as we did and others probrably died since without that atmosphere the oxygen provided was not enough. =P Sorry it was so long. I go to a Christian school and they teach us this stuff.

Posted: Aug 26, 2008

Author Comment:

That is so cool!! Oh my gosh, i'm so happy you commented! Because I was confused about Noah and his ark, and debating whether it was true. I guess it was!

Thanks!

For answers, please visit www.sphyrex.com and go to the PROPHECY Page. You should also visit the NIM page. Download The Apocalypse of Jeremiah and Other Revelations by James Trusty from the PROPHECY page and of course, read it.

Posted: Aug 26, 2008

Author Comment:

Okey dokey

Personally, i think reigion is completely rediculous, which is why I am Agnostoc. I mean really...if god created the earth in seven days, what about all of the evidence of evoloution? and where are the dinosaurs that lived before humans? there are no dinosaurs in the bibe. And really...the entire earth flooding for 40 days and nights, with two of every single animal on board of a giant ark? come on, lets be realistic, here. I used to be christain, i guess, but i never really beleived in jesus, god, moses, whoever is in the bible.
Everyone thinks their religion is right...hindus, buddhists, christians...so which one is "right?" they cant all be right.
I think religion was created because people didnt know how the earth was made, or people were cured of sickness. It's just science, but because people were too..primitive?...to know that, they made something up. Similar to myths, which were made up to explain something that was otherwise un-explainable.
I do appreciate your beleifs, though, and am simply leaving my honest opinion...please dont think i'm trying to be an ass or something. :)

Posted: Aug 27, 2008

Author Comment:

Okay, God first created the heavens the earth, the planets, blah blah blah. Then He created animals and two humans. I suppose the dinosaurs would be those animals He created, which died. If you read one of the comments above you, it explains something really interesting about the atmosphere God created around the earth which caused everything to live longer. Read it. it's awesome. And I think the flooding was also a cause of the atmosphere falling to earth - as was the dinosaur's death. And evolution - - - it has a missing link. I think that all the religions are right to a certain extent. They all have the same ideals, which is good. But I don't really believe in organized religion anymore. I love God, and I try to love others around me. That's all He asks for.

Haha. no I don't think you're being an ass. j

Seriously - - - - - read that one person's comment, i'll find it for you. It's amazing! It's so fact...ual?

thanks.

Dani

TO WOLF ENCHANTRESS!!!!

This is what that amazing person said. It makes so much sense!!!


Genesis it says God seperated the "waters" not water from the sky, and the sky became the exapnce between "Them" it says other stuff too but this is the interesting part. There is a theory that God made an atmosphere of water around the earth. This water layer doubled pressure on earth, doubled the amount of oxygen and it blocked all of the UV rays from the sun wich cause aging. Therefore the idea that Adam and Eve lived to be houndreds of years old is actually scientificaly possible. The pressure doubles growth as does the oxygen, and that not only gives proof for the fist mens' age it only gives proof for dinosouars. Reptiles actually never stop growing. So imagine a snake or iguana that lived longer, and grew two to four times as fast. Interesting isnt it? Even fruits grew bigger, including the apple, who's seeds hold a special chimical that fight cancer ;) They even had better health then, and less risk. Yet before Noah, there was actrually no rain, water tunnels under the earth feed the plants, thats why no one belived Noah about the flood. So the flood wasd porobrably that large atmosphere falling onto the earth, and thats why its no longer there. Some dinosaurs merely shrunk over time and lost health and life span, just as we did and others probrably died since without that atmosphere the oxygen provided was not enough. =P Sorry it was so long.

Posted: Aug 27, 2008

This is just beutiful. ive never been a strong christian, or believer, but this really did apeal to me. Truly amazing. thank you.

Posted: Aug 28, 2008

Author Comment:

Oh, thank you so much! I was aiming for this of course, and hoping that it would help some people understand Him a little more.

Of course, I got lots of opinionated answers, which was AMAZING! And I was so happy, because it also helped me a little.

I'm proud to call myself a Jesus-follower and not a Christian.

No offense to you or anyone else.

Dannika.

hi Dani, this is a nice article...i am a hindu but i ave been working in a Christian missionary hospital since last 6 years of my life....and i appreciate the religion and I respect and bow my head for JESUS...i believe in him even though we r hindus...i have got famiy BIBLE with me next to GITA...( I hope u know what is GITA?)....
well my experience in that Instituition called "CHRISTIAN MEDICAL COLLEGE, VEllore, INDIA was not great...My HOD ( when i joined was very affectionate and loved me...she is a christian...) but when she stepped down, the next HOD made a rule that Hindus won;t be accomodated and even though i was a topper and ready to work for a meagre pay, she was biased because i was fav of the previous HOD....of course....won't i be biased to my mentor??
And one more terrible thing they do there , is to try to convert you to christianity when u r in pain...that is like ' accept christianity and we will treat u for free'.....sickening.....poor patients do that for survival....

did Jesus ever want that...I am sure NOT....
they even tried that for me so that i get a job....i refused and left....i mean "WHY"....i love my religion and I don't want to be a Christian....why force me??

U must have heard about the van being burnt with the Pastor and his sons in India....u know why?? becaue they were forcibly converting tribals in poor areas...after all this i started HATING Christianity....

Sorry, i don't mean to hurt you....may be this article would be an eye opener....

Posted: Aug 28, 2008

Author Comment:

Oh, no!! You didn't hurt me, and I thank you so much for commenting! I don't like Christianity - but I love Jesus.

I've sort of stopped believing in organized religion - and so now, I just call people who believe in Jesus, and try to follow HIS rules, not human's rules, Jesus-Followers.

I hope you're a Jesus-follower like me.:) If not, that's perfectly fine! God gave us a choice - that's why organized religion is so stupid.

Christians think they're doing God's work by forcing others to serve Him, when they've got it totally wrong. He wants us to show them what He can do, to help and love people that we can, but He doesn't want us to force others unto Him.

I love you, even though I don't know who you are. Even if you're not Christian or a Jesus-Follower, I respect you and whatever religion you follow!

Luv Dani.

ps. I don't know what a GITA or a HOD is.

Lauren
(not registered user)

Christ (no pun intended!), this is one terrible essay. Completely figures though that someone who pulls their character and thought process entirely from the bible would display similar ill logic and, hell, even your fallacies contradict one another. This isn't even worth the time beyond that. Also, you write just like you are a simple teenage girl, and the people who've written positive comments rightly sound like they of about the same mindset.

I only hope you free yourself of this brainwash one day.

At the very least, engage yourself in at least a couple writing classes before you go looking to proliferate your ridiculous views. No one with a brain is going to buy crap like this coming from a speaker like you.

Posted: Aug 29, 2008

Author Comment:

Do you get off on making people feel like s.hit? It wasn't supposed to be sophisticated. It was supposed to help some people relate to it.

If you don't believe in God, then don't read my article.

And yes, I AM a simple teenage girl - but that doesn't mean you can say things like that.

If you don't like it, you don't have to be an a.ss, you can simply say, nice try but it didn't do anything for me.

Dani.


wow!..
ii lov yhoo soo much ryt now..
dis is xactly what i need ryt now..

i mean i am a christian - Jesus follower - child OF God - daughter of The most high... whatever you want to call it..
i've been goin 2 church since i was 2 weeks old.. but I became a Christian - a REAL Christian - this summer!.... and it's the best thing that EVER happened to me...

i mean I was born into a verii religious family.. so for a long time i was doing everything in my power to rebel against that.. my policy was "they got to make their mistakes before coming to the Lord.. so why can't I??"
v.v stupid i kno...
but unfortunately i didn't know dat when I ran away from home and lost my virginity at 11..
orr.. snuck out to a nightclub/disco type thing, got wasted and left wivout mi underwear... or when I decided that I should stop eating & survive on only coffee in order to drop from about 8 stone to maybe 6..
nd on nd on ..
d list is incredibly long beleive me..

but this summer something changed..
i mean i was at rock bottom.. seriously.. there was nothing left for me to do but go up.. of course that wasn't my first choice.. i lay in bed at night debating exactly what way i'd prefer to end my life.. but I couldn't do it.. seems despite everithing some of my mother's words had somehow sunk in, whether i liked it or not I simply didn't beleive in suicide..
i mean if murder is wrong -[nd im hopin we r all in agreement of dat fact]- then isn't suicide simply murdering urself.. i figured no point trading my hell on earth for the real deal..

so nehoo.. this summer was my turning point..
it happened while I was at a sleepova.. me nd bout 5 of my m8s were just chatting bout random things.. den somehow the convo traversed frm the trivial.. to the ... er.. not-so-trivial.. i.e death, hell, e.t.c
suddenly we started singing som gospel songs.. then out of nowhere we began praying.. I can't explain it.. I can't put it into logical words or sentences.. but it was nothing like i've ever experienced.. HE was there.. the holy spirit was there.. even under pain of torture & death.. I could never deny the events of that night..
suddenly everything changed.. looking back on my life I literally cringed at some of the things I'd done..
nd it just hit me.. i mean this awesome .. incredible.. HOLY God.. loved me despite all that.. loved me even when my own mother almost didn't..
nd soo for the past 3 months.. I've put my heart in2 the choir.. nd church
daily real my bible.. [well most days]
nd generally cut out stuff i knew full well i shouldnt be doin..

alsoo to "bruce"-- if yhoo say He's not real.. orr wateva. dats ur biz..
but,, nowadays, I have joy and hope and peace.. -[nd just 2 clarify.. joy nd happiness r ttly different.. happpiness is bein happy when good things r happenin.. joy is feelin unexplainable.. happiness x a million even when things are not so good]..
-hope and assurance of a future..
most importantly..
when in need all i need 2 do is ask my heavely Father.. and somehow, he provides/ makes a way/ cheeers me up/ makes it happen..etc..
haha, tel me if yhoo had all of dat would yhoo giv it up?? nope! not even if some guy was tellin yhoo dat the Most High God - who provides for yooh, protects yooh, who created yooh!and asks nothing in return... isn't real

& when yooh worship him yhoor worshiping him out of.. almost like a compulsion to show your love and gratitude.. i mean if someone hands yhoo a million dollars no strings, no questions.. you're tellin me yhoo wouldn't say profuse thanks?! wel if your life is worth more than that.. nd He gave it to you .. as wel as everitin else since then..
your worship should comes from deep wthin you because you can't help but feel unbeleivably grateful...
- nehoo as i was sayin.. thanks but no thanks.. I ain't giving up the best gift I've ever received.. dat would jus be stupid!!..
I do however wish to share the gift.. so if your interested.. - if for no other reason than to have proof of ur conviction..- then ask him for a miracle to prove his existence to you.. [yooh av nothing to lose..]
nd il be praying for yhoo.. =D

once again from the bottom of my heat thank u for doing this Dannikka.. yhoo hav no idea how uplifting it is to kno dat ppl my age hav the same beleifs i do..
x

Posted: Aug 29, 2008

Author Comment:

Oh, I love you too, girl!! I was baptized when I was 9...i believe, but I never really understood anything! So, I don't think I was really "saved". And then, a couple of years ago at my youth group - my friends urged me to be "saved" by the pastor. I did it with him, alone in a little room, and I felt nothing. It was all a lie. I felt so bad, because all my friends told me how great it was, and yet, I felt nothing. Then, this year, at bible camp - my best friend took me up to the top of the "boot hill" and we talked for the longest time. I told her, I had so many doubts - and she just said everyone has doubts and that's perfectly okay. There's nothing wrong with having doubts. Anyways, eventually, we started praying - and of course, I felt kind of silly talking to this thing that I didn't know was there - but eventually I calmed down. And SHE WAS CRYING THE WHOLE TIME! I love her for it, I swear I've never seen that girl cry before! She's so fun, and nice, and CRAZY! I couldn't imagine before that moment that she EVER cried, but her mascara was running down her face, and what not. It was cute. Anyways, I asked God to show me something - give me a sign - and I asked Him to make it obvious, because I'm kind of stupid. Eventually, (I knew this sign wouldn't come right away) we got back to talking about random things, and I never noticed, but the sky above me started darkening really quickly. And it didn't rain, but there were really big clouds above us.

Then, later, when we were at the campfire, the clouds were above us again (this was with the whole camp singing campfire songs), anyways, right after we finished camp, and were heading down to our cabins, the rain pelted down. And I thought that was amazing, because, He held up the rain for us to finish our campfire! Or at least that's what I think.

I didn't know how I could love a stranger - but it's beginning to happen.

For the rest of the week, whenever something odd or different, or big happened, i'd look at my friend and say "obvious?" Because, I felt, in my heart, that He was trying to be as obvious as He could.

Thank you so much for commenting! I can say now that I've never gone through any of that - my mom has, almost exactly that, except she got pregnant (with me! yay!) at a young age, and she still believes in God - - so I won't tell you I know what you went through, cause, well, I don't.

But I think it's so amazing how you got through all of that!

Wow; deleting comments that do something other than tell you how great your article is. You might check the the current level of your Humility reserves: I think you are a little low. While you are at it, you might want to check in the King James Bible, Timothy 1:2, verses 11 through 14:

"11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

Now, I happen to hold a non-literalist position on this; that Paul was a raging egotist who was tired of women calling on the things he said that didn't make sense, but if you are going to take a literalist position on the Bible, then you, as a woman, are clearly commanded to not try to teach men anything about God.

As I said before, I am glad that you have felt the touch of God. But it didn't make you always right. If you are going to Witness about how you feel, and what God means to you, go to it. If, however, you plan on telling people about theology and the interaction of religion and science, then you have a lot of homework ahead of you. When you Witness in a way that can be shown to be factually in error you do not advance God's cause, but harm it (and yes, you can harm God's cause, even though you love Him. It happens all the time). You need to do some serious study, and spend a lot of time talking with people who know more than you do; even, and especially, those who disagree with you.

Or, I suppose, you can continue to delete any comments that give advice that you don't want to hear. Personally, I don't think that is a very adult approach to life.

Posted: Aug 31, 2008

Author Comment:

I deleted a comment? Oh! Yeah, yours. Sorry, it wasn't because it wasn't telling me it was great. Actually I read it when really late in the evening and I just didn't want to answer it. I thought it would show up on the comments still, I just didn't want to reply, cause I was too lazy to read it.


And in case you haven't read the other comments, I didn't erase the bad ones. Frankly, I don't care what people right, and I don't even remember what you wrote.

Thanks a ton for judging me before you found out why i deleted it. You sure made my day.


I just did this because I felt like letting it out. I wasn't trying to force people to believe in it, and I wasn't sure if I was totally right; that's why the title is "MY VIEWS on christianity" not "These are the rules to being a Christian".

I'm sorry that I erased your comment. I was tired, and lazy and didn't want to read it, cause I remember how long it was.


you don't have to start assuming things that aren't true, and judging people.

Dani.

ps. You wanna call me stupid, then do it, because i'm tired of people trying to act like adults, when really they're just insulting you any way.

to mike brennan:
meanie!
Proverbs 31:10-22
just because we're women doesn't mean we have to be so submittive that we're stupid. the proverbs 31 woman is smart, kind, strong, and willing....i think that has a lot more character than a man's egotistical mindset...like yours....

Posted: Sep 1, 2008

Author Comment:

Thanks dude. :)

Dani,
I trully respect that you stepped out and told us what you believe. It takes boldness and a call from the Lord to put yourself out there.
I believe in Jesus Christ and that he died on the cross for our sins to give us a chance to live eternity with him. I agree with you alot of people go to church and read the bible, yet they do not live it.
However there are a select few that do live it and beleive that Jesus is their savior, follow the commandment and pray for others.
I beleive that the key thing is for everyone to pick up the bible and read it having an open mind and an open heart. It does take faith to believe in what you cannot see or touch. However, God has other ways of making himself known to us. For instance all of the good things in life are because he loves us. We would not exist if it were not for him, for that we can be thankful. He also comes to us through our dreams and by placing people in our lives that teach us about Jesus. If you look around you, you can see the miracles of God. He created this world we live in and everything on it.
The bible tells us that there is good and bad in this world. He gave us a gift when he created us and we all have it, freedom of will. Yes, there bad things happen, however good things happen too. It is the will of people that make either things be good or bad. It is through our decisions that we either reap good things or bad things.
The bible teaches us that there is a heaven and a hell.
Heaven is where God and the angels live and where Jesus has prepared us a mansion. Hell is a place that was made for the devil and his demons, it was never meant to be a place for people. However,we are all given the choice to believe in Jesus Christ and live eternally or deny him and face hell. You were right in saying that we all have a choice.
I believe the most important thing is have a personal relationship with Jesus, to trust and believe in him with all your heart, mind and soul. He will never leave you nor forsake you. We become closer to the Lord by praying, reading our bible and attending church as much as possible. Going to church lifts us up spiritually and teaches us things we cannot learn by only reading the bible. As far as church being boring. There are alot of good churches that offer the youth alot of wonderful things. They allow them to be a true part of the church by singing in the choir,putting on gospel plays, taking the youth group out to eat and things of that sort; to help them stay in church and close to Jesus.
I loved what you wrote and I applaud your efforts. I hope that something I said will help in some way.
God bless you and your family

Posted: Sep 1, 2008

Author Comment:

Oh, thanks so much!!!

Dani.

ps. You're an amazing person!! luv ya already!

Ohsodifferent:

I don't think your quote is on point: 10 An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. 11 The heart of her husband trusts in her,
and he will have no lack of gain. 12 She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life. 13 She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands. 14 She is like the ships of the merchant; she brings her food from afar. 15 She rises while it is yet night
and provides food for her household and portions for her maidens. 16 She considers a field and buys it;
with the fruit of her hands she plants a vineyard. 17 She dresses herself with strength and makes her arms strong. 18 She perceives that her merchandise is profitable. Her lamp does not go out at night. 19 She puts her hands to the distaff, and her hands hold the spindle. 20 She opens her hand to the poor and reaches out her hands to the needy. 21 She is not afraid of snow for her household, for all her household are clothed in scarlet. 22 She makes bed coverings for herself; her clothing is fine linen and purple.

This argues strongly against those who feel women should not have their own income, though it does argue for women earning that income by working out of the home. A stronger argument against Timothy 1:2, 11-14 would be Proverbs 31:26; "26 She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue." Though there is the old "Timothy trumps Proverbs because Timothy is New Testament" nonsense.

Personally, I think Paul, or perhaps Timothy using Paul's authority without permission, was trying to shut up women because women are so good at spotting when a man is blowing smoke, and he was tired of them pointing out that a lot of what he was saying didn't fit with what Christ said and did. But to believe that you have to be able to let go of the idea that the Bible is a simple source of all answers.

Christ didn't send his people out to witness on their own the first day, or first week, or the first month they followed him. He had them learn to be wise as serpents before he sent them out among the wolves.

Posted: Sep 1, 2008

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cool.