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Seeing that I have so many dates of the birth of Jesus, I decided to post them so that you can have a look as well. You'll see some strange charts and it is up to you to bypass them or have a quick
look. No harm done!

Chapter 12 (v.1) - Charts of Jesus

Submitted: October 15, 2017

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At the end of the last chapter I gave you the traditional date of Jesus' birth. here is the wheel.

Ascendant........................00.30.................................Libra
2nd...................................27.54.................................Libra
3rd...................................28.22.................................Scorpio
4th...................................00.32.................................Capricorn
5th...................................02.41.................................Aquarius
6th...................................03.08.................................Pisces
7th...................................00.30.................................Aries
8th...................................27.54.................................Aries
9th...................................28.22.................................Taurus
10th.................................00.32.................................Cancer
11th.................................02.41.................................Leo
12th.................................03.08.................................Virgo...

Sun.................................05.12.................................Capricorn
Moon..............................10.55.................................Gemini
Mercury..........................07.18.................................Capricorn
Venus............................20.37..................................Aquarius
Mars..............................08.55..................................Aries
Jupiter...........................08.46..................................Libra
Saturn...........................11.35 R..............................Gemini
Uranus..........................26.08..................................Pisces
Neptune........................19.32..................................Scorpio
Pluto.............................27.30..................................Virgo
N Node.........................29.02..................................Sagittarius
Fortune........................06.13...................................Pisces.

This chart is very interesting and then it lacks some astrological points if we are to compare it to what we have read in the gospels. The main theme is ''love'' and I expected to find the planet Venus in the sign of Pisces; there it is exalted. There are some charts with Venus in Pisces which we shall look at later.

In this chart we have Libra just rising with its ruler Venus, in the 5th house in the sign of Aquarius.

Aquarius is a universal sign, friendly, unusual, scientific, groups , clubs and associations.

Venus in the fifth has a love of creativity, children etc,.

We know that Jesus loved children.

Venus has only one aspect, this one is a square going to Neptune in the second house. Neptune is co-ruler of the 6th house. Venus is also ruling the second and 9th houses.

We have duplicate signs of 1 and 2, 7 and 8.

In the first house we have the planet Jupiter, the biggest planet in our solar system.

Jupiter is holding 8 degrees telling us that there's something here that we won't be able to understand.

Jupiter is ruler of the loop in the third house with the sign Sagittarius there, and the north node inside. Jupiter is co-ruler of the 6th house.

Jupiter is square the Mid, the sun and Mercury. These squares are coming from an angular position.

Jupiter is opposing Mars in the 7th house.

Jupiter is trine the moon and Saturn in the loop in the 9th house.

The sun sign is Capricorn. Because we are using the midnight time the sun will always be around that area so we shall not use house position. Only if the person is born at midnight then we can use the 4th house.

People has written songs about Jesus being a Capricorn.

The sun is in a close conjunction with Mercury. The sun is holding 5 degrees and Mercury 7.

The sun is sextile Fortune in the 6th house in the sign of Pisces. The sun is square Mars in the 7th house, and Pluto in the 12th.

The contact with sun and Mars is coming from angular positions. But it is still negative yet strong.

The sun is semi-square Venus in the 5th house.

In the 7th house we see Mars in its own sign of Aries. There's lots of energy here, people can get angry with their partners and with the public. You will find many people with Mars in the 7th house is either divorced, or do not get married.

Mars in the 7th house will work well if it has good aspects from the rest of the chart, and even so, there'll still be some sort of conflict.

When I first saw this chart, I said to myself Jesus would not have married. Some people still take the chance.

Uranus in the 6th house is opposing the ascendant. Fortune is conjunct the 6th house, is sextile the sun and Mercury, square the  moon and Saturn, trine the Mid.

Mars is sextile the moon and Saturn.

Uranus is square the node in the second house in the loop.

Uranus is quincunx the second house, semi-sextile the 8th, square the Mid.

Notice that the Node is conjunct the 4th house, is square the ascendant.

Notice 0 degree on the ascendant and the Mid.

The destiny planet Saturn, is in the 9th house in a loop with the sign of Gemini and in conjunction with the moon.

The moon rules the 10th house, while Saturn rules the 4th.

The node is semi-sextile the third house.

I want you to read up a lot on the 9th house because it has to do with all religious people. It has to do with space, it has to do with foreign countries and peoples. It has to do with high education, law, philosophy, freedom for self and others.

This ninth house loop is what I call ''extra.''

In my chart, I have experienced a 5/11 loop. I know what has happened, but I'm still thinking about it.

If we do houses contact with this chart we get:

1-5. 2-5, 3-7/12, 4-9, 5-6/9, 6-1/2, 7-7, 8-7, 9-5, 10-9, 11-4?, 12-4

Notice that we have 5-9 twice. This shows that energies are there to be a teacher, and something to do with foreign countries or peoples.

Some people may be bafflled by the way we could extract information from a chart with the wrong time. I will explain that in another chapter.

We are now going to progress this chart for when Jesus was 12. We have 6 more days to finish the month of December. We take 6 days from January the next year and we get 12 days (years).

The progress date is then 6th January AD 1 (0001)

Ascendant...............................12.55.............................Libra
2nd..........................................10.56.............................Scorpio
3rd...........................................11.37.............................Sagittarius
4th...........................................13.57.............................Capricorn
5th...........................................16.14.............................Aquarius
6th...........................................16.24.............................Pisces
7th...........................................12.55.............................Aries
8th...........................................10.56.............................Taurus
9th...........................................11.37.............................Gemini
10th.........................................13.57.............................Cancer
11th.........................................16.14.............................Leo
12th.........................................16.24.............................Virgo

Sun..........................................16.23............................Capricorn
Moon........................................15.58............................Scorpio
Mercury....................................26.41............................Capricorn
Venus......................................02.41.............................Pisces
Mars........................................14.36.............................Aries
Jupiter......................................09.35............................Libra
Saturn......................................10.52 R........................Gemini
Uranus.....................................26.23............................Pisces
Neptune...................................19.49............................Scorpio
Pluto.........................................27.30 R........................Virgo
N Node.....................................28.58............................Sagittarius
Fortune.....................................12.30............................Leo

We are told that Jesus when he was 12 went with his parents to Jerusalem.

We notice straight away that Fortune is in the 10th house, in the sign of the 11th house, and is exactly sextile the ascendant. For me, Leo comes under Fortune ( a test I'm doing).

Then we have Saturn, his destiny planet in the 8th house but in the 9th house sign, is conjunct the 9th house.

The 9th or the 3rd house is travel.

We also see that Saturn is exactly semi-sextile the 8th house. Is trine the ascendant with 2 degrees, we work with 1 degree.

Jupiter in the 12th house, ruler of the third and sixth houses is trine to Saturn, and semi-sextile the second house.

The moon in January is sextile the 12th house, square the 11th, sextile the sun, quincunx Mars.

Mars is square the Mid.

Mercury, ruler of the 9th and 12th houses is sextile  Uranus, ruler of the 5th.

Remember that it is the moon which is moving the fastest in a chart.

In your natal chart, it stays in the same place for all your life.

It is in the progress where it starts to move forward or backward.

Remember too that this chart came down to us from ancient times.

There were lots of messing about with the calendar, and I think that is why there was so much confusion. God knows if we are still on the right road.

I mention earlier that Jesus could be born in October because of his mothers' progress moon making aspects to other planets or points in her chart. Her progressed month starting the year was September.

So Jesus could then be born either in September, october, November or even December.

There's another thing you have to remember, in the ancient days, you used to drop the 5 days, these were for celebrations.

You can look at your own progressive chart and see when certain planets are about to change houses or even signs, and see what has taken place in your life.

Remember too, that when a negative aspect is around, and you know about it, you can do something to avert real danger. I do not think that you could completely stop it, for then it would not make any sense.

We shall peep into the chart of Jesus when he was 18 to see what we can find.

The progressed date is 12th January Ad 1 (0001)

Ascendant..........................17.56...................................Libra
2nd.....................................16.09...................................Scorpio
3rd......................................16.58...................................Sagittarius
4th......................................19.27...................................Capricorn
5th......................................21.50...................................Aquarius
6th......................................21.49...................................Pisces
7th......................................17.56...................................Aries
8th......................................16.09...................................Taurus
9th......................................16.58...................................Gemini
10th....................................19.27...................................Cancer
11th....................................21.50...................................Leo
12th....................................21.49...................................Virgo

Sun....................................22.28...................................Capricorn
Moon.................................27.15...................................Capricorn
Mercury.............................07.09...................................Aquarius
Venus................................09.01...................................Pisces
Mars..................................17.49...................................Aries
Jupiter...............................09.52...................................Libra
Saturn...............................10.32 R...............................Gemini
Uranus..............................26.34..................................Pisces
Neptune............................19.58..................................Scorpio
Pluto.................................27.18..................................Virgo
N Node.............................28.59..................................Sagittarius
Fortune............................22.43...................................Libra...

Still with a Libra ascendant. This is ruled by Venus. Librans are peace loving people. They like harmony and togetherness.

Jupiter is in the 12th house holding 9 degrees. Some times these outer planets stay long in the same degrees.

I've been tuning in to see what they mean. It takes sometime.

Fortune is in the first house conjunct the ascendant with about 4 degrees.

It seems to me wherever Fortune is, that's the house that comes into action.

Forune is semi-sextile the 12th house, sextile the 11th.

Alaways check in your own charts because when planets are making contact to the 11th house, it has to do with friendships or groups and clubs.

Fortune is square the Mid 92 degrees.

Fortune is exactly square the sun.

I gave Leo to fall under Fortune as a test.

Here we see that both sun and Fortune rules the 11th house.

Notice that Mercury in the fourth house in 7 degrees is telling us something. To do with the home, the 11th house sign Aquarius, and Mercury is ruler of the 9th and 12th houses.

The moon is passing through the fourth house in Capricorn. There's always some sort of change going on. The moon is ruler of the 10th house.

Remember, the moon  is in a position for January.

The moon is semi-sextile the node in the 3rd house.

The moon is sextile Uranus in the 6th house.

The moon is exactly trine Pluto in the 12th house.

Pluto is co-ruler of the 2nd house.

Uranus is ruling the fifth.

Venus in the fifth house is quincunx Jupiter in the 12th. Jupiter is ruling the third and the 6th, Venus is ruling 8th and 1st.

Venus is holding 9 degrees.

Jupiter is holding a trine aspect with Saturn.

Venus is square Saturn.

Neptune in the 2nd house in the sign Scorpio is trine the Mid in Cancer.

And now we have Mars exactly conjunct the 7th house, ruling the 7th, and co-ruler of 2nd.

By now you should know that there's something going on to do with the 11th house, the 5th, the 7th and the 2nd. Also the fourth. Much is going on.

You notice that Saturn is ruler of the 4th and fifth houses. Venus is ruler of the ascendant and 8th house.

The next chart is when Jesus is 30 years old.

The progress date is 24th January AD 1 (0001).

Ascendant..........................27.54.....................Libra
2nd.....................................26.29.....................Scorpio
3rd......................................27.41.....................Sagittarius
4th......................................00.40.....................Aquarius
5th......................................03.13.....................Pisces
6th......................................02.41.................... Aries
7th......................................27.54.....................Aries
8th......................................26.29.....................Taurus
9th......................................27.41.....................Gemini
10th....................................00.40.....................Leo
11th....................................03.13.....................Virgo
12th....................................02.41.....................Libra

Sun....................................04.34.....................Aquarius
Moon.................................04.15.....................Cancer
Mercury.............................21.54.....................Aquarius
Venus................................20.57.....................Pisces
Mars..................................24.26.....................Aries
Jupiter...............................10.07.....................Libra
Saturn...............................10.03 R.................Gemini
Uranus..............................27.00.....................Pisces
Neptune............................20.11.....................Scorpio.
Pluto.................................27.20.....................Virgo
N Node.............................28.37.....................Sagittarius
Fortune............................27.35......................Pisces.

I hope you have seen that the planet Venus is in the sign of Pisces. In this sign Venus is exalted and brings out the love energies more than ever.

There is something to do with friends or a group with Pluto in the  11th house in the sign of Virgo and exactly semi-sextile the ascendant. Pluto is co-ruler of the 2nd house.

Then we have Neptune in the sign of the second house which is a water sign, Scorpio, and is square to Mercury in the 4th house in ths ign od Aquarius. Neptune is in the first house.

Mercury is ruler of the 9th and the 11th houses. The sign Mercury is in belongs to the 11th house.

Pluto is square the node in the 3rd house in the sign of Sagittarius. The node itself is conjunct the third house.

Pluto is exactly opposing Uranus. These are two outer planets and they'll be in this position for some time.

Pluto is exactly opposing Fortune. 11th and 5th houses. 6th and 12th signs.

The node is square Uranus and Fortune. The node as ruler of the intercepted sign in the 9th house.

Pluto is square the 9th house, trine the 8th, quincunx the 7th.

We find Uranus is exactly conjunct Fortune in the fifth house.  both are semi-sextile to the 7th house, sextile the 8th, exactly square the 9th.

The axis 10/4 is holding zero degree. Something to do with the outside world, the career and the home and parents.

Jupiter is still holding on to that trine to Saturn in the 8th house.

We now have Saturn passing through the 8th house which actually has to do with magic, and dark things. Pluto is the son of Saturn. Pluto's brothers are Jupiter and Neptune.

The node is sextile the ascendant.

The moon in the intercepted sign in the 9th house is ruler of the sign, and is sextile to 11th house. January it is moving away.

The sun is exactly quincunx the moon. the sun is ruler of the 10th house. The sun is semi-sextile the fifth house.

Mercury is semi-sextile Venus in the 5th house.

Now we have Venus exalted in Pisces and trine Neptune in Scorpio. Pisces is ruled by Neptune. We have houses 1/5, signs 8/12.

Now we are going to look at the chart when he was 45 in AD 41 when the days of his mother ended.

The progress date we have is 8th February AD ! (0001).

Ascendant........................10.14................................Scorpio
2nd...................................09.21................................Sagittarius
3rd....................................11.22................................Capricorn
4th....................................15.11................................Aquarius
5th....................................17.45................................Pisces
6th....................................16.14................................Aries
7th....................................10.14................................Taurus
8th....................................09.21................................Gemini
9th....................................11.22................................Cancer
10th..................................15.11................................Leo
11th..................................17.45................................Virgo
12th..................................16.14................................Libra...

Sun..................................19.35................................Aquarius
Moon................................24.07...............................Cancer
Mercury...........................14.41 R............................Aquarius
Venus..............................03.52...............................Aries
Mars................................02.57...............................Taurus
Jupiter.............................09.48 R............................Libra
Saturn.............................09.48 R............................Gemini
Uranus............................27.39................................Pisces
Neptune..........................20.21................................Scorpio
Pluto...............................27.04 R.............................Virgo
N Node...........................28.00................................Sagittarius
Fortune..........................14.46.................................Aries

There's still a bit of confusion within the astrological community over which house is the mother for the man, and for the woman.

In my own chart, the 10th house is my mother. The fourth house that of my father.

So we can say that the 4th and 10th houses are the parents.

In this chart, Jesus has the sign of Leo at the 10th house. The sun is the ruler.

The sun is in the fourth house holding 19 degrees. It seems to be that this has something to do with and end, or a change. I am not absolutely sure.

There's a lot more inrformation within that 19 degrees. It takes a long time to check it out properly.

His ascendant would be her end (4th house).

The sun is square to Neptune in the first house.

His  fifth house is her 8th house.

Neptune is co-ruler of the 5th house.

Her body is ruled by Mercury with the sign of Virgo at the 11th house.

Merccury is in the fourth house in the sign of Aquarius conjuncting the fourth house, and exactly sextile to Fortune in the fifth but in the 6tgh house sign. Fortune has rule over Leo (my test).

Saturn, ruler of the third house and the fourth is in the 8th house holding 9 degrees; and is exactly trine to Jupiter in the 11th house (his mother second) also holding 9 degrees.

Pluto in the 11th house is still exactly opposing Uranus in the fifth house. Uranus is co-ruler of the fourth, while Pluto is co-ruler of the ascendant.

The North Node in the second house is square to Pluto and to Uranus.
 

Jupiter is exactly trine the 8th house.

Fortune is trine the Mid.

Jupiter is semi-sextile the ascendant. Saturn is quincunx the ascendant.

Venus in the fifth house but in the 6th house sign is semi-sextile Mars in the 6th house.

Venus is ruler of the 7th and 12 houses. Mars is ruler of the ascendant and the 6th.

Here is another natal chart for Jesus.

28th January 7 BC (-6) at 03:34 am, Bethlehem, Israel.

Ascendant...........................14.21..........................Capricorn
2nd......................................22.21..........................Aquarius
3rd.......................................00.55..........................Aries
4th.......................................03.01..........................Taurus
5th.......................................28.41..........................Taurus
6th.......................................21.13..........................Gemini
7th.......................................14.21..........................Cancer
8th.......................................22.21..........................Leo
9th.......................................00.55......................... Libra
10th.....................................03.01..........................Scorpio
11th.....................................28.41..........................Scorpio
12th.....................................21.13..........................Sagittarius

Sun.....................................09.15...........................Pisces
Moon..................................19.08...........................Pisces
Mercury..............................16.29...........................Aquarius
Venus.................................19.13...........................Pisces
Mars...................................21.00 R.......................Virgo
Jupiter................................02.49...........................Pisces
Saturn................................11.34...........................Pisces
Uranus...............................02.16...........................Pisces
Neptune.............................05.01 R.......................Scorpio
Pluto..................................08.33 R.......................Virgo
N Node..............................09.04...........................Taurus
Fortune..............................24.14...........................Capricorn

This chart is powerful. It has 6 planets in the sign of Pisces the fishes.

They are the sun, the moon, Venus, Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus.

Fortune is in the first house showing that the person has to make their own way in life.

Mercury is in the second house in the sign of Aquarius.

The node is in the fourth house in the sign of Taurus.

Mars and Pluto in the loop in the sign of Virgo in the 8th house.

Then we have Neptune in the 10th house.

If we start doing house contact we are going to get house 1 in house 2

House 2 in 2, house 3 in 8, house 4 in 2, house 5 in 2, house 6 in 2, house 7 in 2, house 8 in 2, house 9 in 2, house 10 in 8, house 11 in 8 and house 12 in 2.

We now find that house 2 is very strong. This has to do with his body or with his possessions. And on the opposite side, with other people's possessions.

Have a look back in the traditional chart and you'll see that the moon and Saturn are in conjunction, in the loop, in the sign of gemini, in the 9th house. The moon is responsible for the 10th house while Saturn is responsible for the 4th house.

In this chart we have Neptune holding a strong position in the 10th house, and is ruler of the loop in the second house. This 10th house belongs to the mother and the individual's career.

Having Mars and Pluto in the 8th house is rather dark. But in this chart they are making good contact with the ascendant. Mars is making contact with the 8th house itself. But Mars is co-ruler of the 8th along with Pluto. And here they are both in the 8th house. Pluto is holding 8 degrees and is co-ruler of the 10th and 11th houses along with Mars.

The 11th house is the individual's friends, so this gives us a contact of 11/8.

Mars is exactly square the 12th house.

Inside the loop in the second house we have Jupiter and Uranus exactly in conjunction; and they both are in trine to the Mid. Inside this same loop, we have the planet Venus and the moon in exact conjunction. By the way, Jupiter rules the loop and the 12th house while Venus rules the 4th,5th and 9th houses. The moon rules the 7th.

The ascendant in this chart is Capricorn. Capricorn people always want to be at the top in their profession. The ruler of Capricorn is Saturn and it is in the second house in the sign of Pisces, in the loop.

Saturn is very sympathetic, and kind, wanting to help others.. it is vconjunct Venus and the moon and the sun.

Both Venus and the moon are sextile to the ascendant. Have you ever found someone with Venus to the ascendant and not showing some kind of love or beauty?

Both Venus and the moon are sextile to Fortune in the first house.

The sun is sextile the ascendant; and tha ascendant ruler, Saturn is sextile the ascendant.

Mercury is semi-sextile the ascendant.

The sun, Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus are all opposing Pluto.

Venus and the moon are opposing Mars.

Pluto is sextile the Mid.

The sun is trine Neptune and the Mid. We also have the ascendant ruler, Saturn, trine to Neptune and the Mid.

Mercury semi-sextile to the moon and Venus.

Saturn is sextile the node.

The sun is exactly sextile the node.

Mercury is square the node.

The node is opposing Neptune and the Mid.

The node is trine Pluto.

We see that something is happening in the 3/9 axis.

 

Now I will show all the dates that I have. You can look them up if you have the time.

7th January AD 3 at 04:50 am,

18th February BC 5 (-0004) at 21:04 pm.

1st March BC 7 (-0006) at 01:30 am or 01:21 am.

1st September BC 2 (-0001) at 04:30 am.

10th September BC 3 (-0002) at 00:23 am.

3rd May BC 7 (-0006) at 05:45 am.

10th August BC 3 (-0002) at 23:11 pm.

Pierre d' Ailly's chart of Jesus: 24th December BC 1 (0000) at 22:12 pm.

Jerome Cardan's chart of Jesus: 25th December BC 1 (0000) at 00:07 am.

Tiberio Russiliano's chart of Jesus: 25th December BC 1 (0000) at 00:21 am.

The early classical astrologers  selected the year BC 1.

According to the internet the first complete chart of Jesus was cast by French scholar and ecclesiastic Cardinal Pierre d' Ailly (1350-1420).

Those of you who are deeply interested, you can see what you make of all those dates. One thing is for sure. You have to know what the four gospels are telling you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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