Submitted: August 06, 2022
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Thanks so much Damon. This essay leads into another piece I'm going to publish critical of Liberalism. At this point progressives have taken the place of liberals as the advocates of a reformist politics. In some ways that is necessary and good. However there is a downside too. First, the Progressive Left is less interested in the political process. This makes it hard for them to get any thing done. Second, they are focused on total defeat of their opponents which makes them less willing to respect their opponents. Lastly, as I pointed out in the essay there are differences in values an ideology between progressives and liberals.
All of this will help to clarify and provide context for my next essay.
Hasn't been a competent US pres since Bush's predecessor... Dem or repub. Full stop.
Sat, August 6th, 2022 10:43pmYour post concentrates on the internal politics of the USA but the majority of the western world outside of the anglosphere see the USA quite differently;
to quite
"When is Enough Enough.
The United States of America has become the world greatest kleptocracy since the end of world war two.
In its foreign policy, economic policies, covert actions and aggressive wars it has stolen on a grand scale across the globe.
It steals
oil
gold
commodities
It steals
lives
sovereignty
and self respect
It demands that it and it alone has the sole right to determine the rules under which the rest of the world must live. It ignores International Law, the UN Charter and holds itself above any external restriction. It has abused the nuclear non proliferation treaty by placing nuclear weapons into non nuclear states. It politicians lie and deceive almost as a matter of habit.
My question is; How much longer is the rest of the world going to put up with this?"
JDB401 you're right to point out America's wrongdoings abroad past and present. At the same time, the US can't withdraw from world affairs either. We shouldn't think we're better than anyone else. But I don't see America as an evil empire either. If we become isolationist and focus only on domestic problems, then a lot of global challenges won't be met. Think about climate change, pandemics, poverty, and mass migration.
Furthermore, let's be honest about the world as it really is. Islamic terrorists like Al Queda and Isis are determined to oppress other Muslims and bring down the secular democratic West too. The Us and others have to stand up to them. Should Russia be allowed to control Ukraine or any other county in Eastern Europe and the Baltic? I would say no. The US is problematic to say the least. Yet we exist in a troubled world filled with aggressors who are no good for their own people, neighbors, or America.
Although your view is legitimate, it still holds the same flaws that the conservative right and the used-to-be Tea-Party-People have, they do not include any of the centralist's views in their thinking. No left-winger will ever gain a centralist's vote if they want to get rid of Capitalism, even the communists have incorporated some aspects of Capitalism into their societies. --- And the right is not going to hold the loyalty of any of the centers if they keep thinking that this is Rome and that the rich should make all the rules. No, no matter how they want it, the center cannot and will not be voiceless.
Mon, August 8th, 2022 8:08pmThanks D. Thurmond aka JEF
My problem with Moderate Centrists is that too often they side with Conservatives. Consider how they watered down then blocked the President's Build Back Better initiative. They also side with the Republican Right giving them just enough votes to win Congressional races even in what would be considered Blue States. Nobody not even Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren is advocating policies that will lead to Socialism in America. That's just Rightwing fear mongering.
The extreme Right will keep winning elections and undermining our democracy and society because too many moderates go along with them. It's not that moderates are voiceless. I hear them loud and clear STANDING TO THE RIGHT.
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As always well written and thoughtful, again I do not see eye to eye with your views but I respect them. As I have gotten older, I have become more skeptical of the labels. One problem is the fragmentation and division our country, divisions within divisions. Can you imagine what Ronald Reagan would think of with MAGA people calling themselves Republican conservatives.
Sat, August 6th, 2022 11:46am