Reflection of Madness in Music

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Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an incredible ability to show what he learned about other people including their mental illness.
Among many famous composers as severely disturbed or genuinely psychopathic he finds Shumann’s history convincing evidence of manic depressive disease. When Shumann was 20 years, at the time he created his dual character of Florestan?Eusebiusand through music describe his own mood swings he also wrote of his want to want to throw himself in the river Rhine and did attempt to drown himself in the river at age 24.
Shumann suffered of dementia praecox and syphilis.
Pink Floyd a most successful band in the modern history of music who emcompass mental illness in their music till success takes its toll in Roger “Syd” Barrett, one of the original members of Pink Floyd while his band mates watch him slowly deteriorate into mental illness, triggered both by the pressure of success and overdoses of LSD. By 1968 was too sick that they he was replaced by Gilmour but it was Barrett and his illness that provided the inspiration for I wish you were here andShine on you crazy diamond written as a tribute to the tragic fallen artist.
In spite of rare findings however Dr Frosh has found no significant connection between mental illness and creative abilities and therefore  musical creativity remains a mystery He has given a clean bill of mental health to most of the the genius cited above and believes rather that their mental disturbances can be explained by other cause such as stroke in the case of Gluck, alcoholism (W.F. Bach) syphilis (Shubert) and chronic renal disease (Mozart) while Handel depression was probably cause by a failure in his career and financial difficulties: “Liszt and Mahler certainly led an unusual and flamboyant lives “
says Dr Frosh “Mahler was neurotic and haunted by death but did not have not have a major affective disease”.
Hugo Wolf he agrees was diagnosed for psychiatric problems since early age and did try to drown himself and was hospitalized many times till his death .at the age of 43.
Though Wolf appears to have had a pre-existent psychopath personality there is no real reason to link insanity or other major mental illnesses with musical creativity.
“That there is a psychology of musical creativity I do not doubt. That there is a meaning to it perhaps,  imputed after the fact, I do not doubt, that there is a pathology to it… I find no compelling evidence.”
Ivan Brown author of Music and Madness instead calls for an attention to what he feels is mindlessness prescription of drugs and misuse by psychiatrists and physicians to many of these artists patients who may not need them. Professor Brown warns that medications
while sometimes necessary to achieve some relief from pain they may also hinder recovery by natural healing such as individual and group therapy and spiritual healing.
 
Sources: Music View: Pondering the Link between Music and Madness.
Reflection of Madness in Music
The myth of mad genius is all too common in the history of many famous composers and musicians like Mozart, Shubert, Bach, Liszt, Wagner. Johann Strauss, Mahler, Handel, Beethoven and even more recent examples of successful bands as Pink Floyd and Metallica have been classified as borderline psychopath if not certified insane that one wonders whether there does exist a connection between mental illness and musical creativity.
Dr. Frosh medical director of Reyne Whitney Clinic in New York recently has wanted to take a closer look at the history of these pathologically ill patients by creatively fruitful artists and noted for istance that in the case of Beethoven he “ did experience mood swings superimposed upon a prevailing mild depression; he was clearly eccentric, particularly after he became deaf and he may have been psychotic during the battle for custody of his nephew Karl, but there is no evidence that he was ever manic depressive.”
Dr. Frosh holds that Beethoven was very knowledgeable about different theories and rumors about insanity in his times and that it was this very knowledge that triggered his creativity. Beethoven was so good at doing improvisation that he possessed an i


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